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Started:September 2nd, 2011 (07:08 AM) by Big Mike Views / Replies:48,379 / 524
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Elite only for ALL downloads?

Old September 3rd, 2011, 03:25 PM   #71 (permalink)
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solution user has to type in random code in order to download.

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Old September 3rd, 2011, 03:36 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I don't have an opinion about whether to make all downloads Elite only, but perhaps a better way to screen new members than by number of posts would be screening them by number of thanks instead. Then they'd have to at least make helpful posts not spammy ones.

I have always liked the 'thanks' feature of this forum and thought that it helps encourage helpful posts.

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Old September 3rd, 2011, 03:38 PM   #73 (permalink)
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solution user has to type in random code in order to download.

ya, could even add in there if you have paid membership you wouldnt have to do this? just another perk to becoming 'elite'?

dont believe anything you hear and only half of what you see


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Old September 3rd, 2011, 03:47 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Ya Big Mike, it's time to SEAL the Borders from the Lilly Liberal Socialist Commie types. These Parasite types just want to infiltrate this Great Forum and TAKE something for NOTHING!!!

Remember, this is LABOR DAY weekend, Trader's here in futures.io (formerly BMT) work Very Very Hard on their systems...and their labor should NOT be in vain!!!

"Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." --- "Therefore, I Believe it and I will see it. And every day and in every way, I am healthier, wealthier, and wiser."

Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:09 PM   #75 (permalink)
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I like Cory's idea of the user having to type in a random system generated code in a security box prior to download completing. Either that or limit down loads to paid elite members only.

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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:40 PM   #76 (permalink)
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I think making all downloads "elite" only is a very good idea. Especially given how reaonable ($50 lifetime) the cost is. You"ve structured the price in a way that makes it both affordable and also requires someone to at least put forward some good faith on their part. I also think that it is a good structure that you have with the seperation of "public" and "elite" forums. I have recently joined the board and it did not take me long to realize the value of both content and community that exists here.


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Old September 3rd, 2011, 05:58 PM   #77 (permalink)
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after thinking about it i like the idea mike..

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Old September 4th, 2011, 01:17 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Changing downloading to Elite wont help you solve the problem.. The ones that are downloading & reselling the Indicators will pay the $50 to continue what they were doing best... Mike I seriously think You are promoting Different Platforms (Ninja,Tradestation,SC etc.. ) the owners should be paying you for supporting their platforms by creating Indicators on your website for traders to download... whereas stopping Illegal downloading & distrubiting of futures.io (formerly BMT) Indicators, why dont all the programmers that code the Indicators add some extra code to the Indicator that allows the indicator to run only on one computer at a time after its downloaded & cant be shared.... Im pretty sure it can be done.. I dont doubt the programmers that are here supporting futures.io (formerly BMT) are less talented then the rest out there...

But another question comes to my mind, why would someone wanna pay extra money to others when they can get it here for $50 if you know what i mean...... Mike I Think your server expenses should be paid by all your sponsors & you should completely free your website for everyone... I think these big fishes(Platforms) should be paying for all your expenses & hard work for promoting their stuff.....

I think futures.io (formerly BMT) should completely be FREE for everyone.... this way people wont be going elsewhere to buy indicators that were here once shared by other members....

Mike I think you put in endless hours to maintain this website & you should be respected for doing all that by being paid, cause time is money.... & we all know the importance of it.....
a lot will disagree with my opinions.. but in the begining of your post you asked everyones input, so I decided to speak my mind...

In the End whatever you do... remember futures.io (formerly BMT) is your baby & everyone will respect your decision..

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Old September 4th, 2011, 11:17 AM   #79 (permalink)
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I agree

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IMHO, it may be a good idea to contact the top indi contributors directly and take a quick survey about what they think.

Case in point, I've noticed that Fat Tails opts to post his indis in the non-elite section. I'd hate to think of a situation where Fat Tails and other quality contributors like him are no longer compelled to share their work.

I agree,let those who truly love trying to help us newer traders find our way,(decide?),,,,,this is really a tuff ,interesting problem.


Old September 5th, 2011, 12:40 PM   #80 (permalink)
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I feel the indicators and strategies which have been coded by the programmers here should be put in elite section, those indicators which are shared on other forums like Ninjatrader suppoort forum should be kept in the common section.

If the programmers dont want their work to be stolen and sold on other sites, they should secure the code by some means...clisecure/obfuscating the code/DLL etc.
If the programmers want their work to be sold, obviously there is a provision to post your own website address below the username and a separate vendor section.


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