I'm a little bit late to this discussion, so I haven't read all 38 pages, but I'd like to add that I think this is a great idea Mike. From my standpoint, I've recently stopped contributing and being as active with posting than I was earlier. The biggest reason for this was that I was somewhat disappointed that I, and other posters, sometimes seemed to care more about the issue than the person who brought the issue / question forward. I'm not assigning blame here - I think it's normal behaviour on a big, anonymous forum - but it is somewhat disappointing from my standpoint. If all the downloads are elite only, I think (hope) that we have more serious discussion, and not people who just drop a question, and log in a week later to collect the answers.
Just my two cents.
I'm okay with using our real first name (that can perhaps even make the discussion more personal and friendly), but please do not go into ways that compromise our privacy. People normally don't like this, and I certainly don't want to use my full, real name here. It's not that I don't trust BigMike with this info - but this should not be viewable to other users, and if futures.io (formerly BMT) gets hacked I do not want this incredibly sensitive information being in the public.
The same goes for listing the city that you live in - in my small town, I'm the only one with my surname. Would I be comfortable that the whole world (yes, futures.io (formerly BMT) is that big ) can look into the telephone book and find my, and my family, address and phone number? Definitely not.
I agree that spammers and just unfriendly people should be filtered out, but I do not think that giving up privacy is (or ever will be) the answer.
There are a few people out there who for some reasons may not be a part of the Elite membership group. If the intention of the uploader is to share his code/asset with everybody (incl. non-Elite members), it would be a disservice to him.
I think the choice to limit access to the upload should be left to the original owner of the asset. If he so wishes, he may restrict the asset only to Elite members.
Just my 2 cents.
The following 2 users say Thank You to SawViper for this post:
First I REALLY APPRECIATE all the great trading help I have gotten from this site and it would not have happened if Mike had not stepped up and taken his time and money to put it on the web and guided it to it's current state.
I believe Mike is entitled to any and all financial benefits he can get from this site as a small recompense for all he has done for those of us who value and frequent the site.
And let me say that I would not mind paying a small (auto-bill) monthly fee for the privilege of using the site and getting access to what those with great minds and giving spirits have provided here.
That said, here is my idea for Mike that I would love to see...
Try what has worked for America... capitalism... build a better mousetrap and sell it. Mike should offer something like a vendor area within futures.io (formerly BMT). In the vendor area contributors (call them "vendors") could sell whatever they want at whatever price they want and Mike gets 50% of the price as his commission. If it's too much it won't sell. If it's junk, the vendor's ratings (in plain view) will show that. That way, the talented traders here would be more motivated to offer up great indicators, strategies, webinars (especially on coding for NinjaTrader) and so on. Just think how great that would be. The law of the marketplace, at work again!
It is my hope that I could learn enough about trading (and coding) to be one of those vendors making a few bucks but more importantly helping out some folks who are searching and struggling in a morass of trading BS to find a way to make a living trading.
At the risk of being politically incorrect (not the first time)... God bless you Mike.
Maybe try implementing a more sophisticated reputation system, something like StackOverflow.
Or, to download something, you must upload something. When someone downloads it you get 1 download credit. This could create lots of fake accounts of people downloading their own stuff just to get credits. Also, it only rewards uploaders/developers. Perhaps you could give the uploader the option of who can download it. Having the choice to put something in Elite Downloads or normal download area does that already.
I don't know, just thinking out loud. I think more choice to the creators might help, a-la Creative Commons or Google+ Circles concept. After all, uploaders have different reasons for contributing, let them choose who gets to benefit from their work.
Last edited by shodson; September 6th, 2011 at 02:40 AM.
I am very new to this community and until the last couple of days have been a non-Elite member.
It doesn't take long for the average person who is interested in trading and looking for useful resources, to see that futures.io (formerly BMT) is a valid, friendly, valuable resource. I decided to contribute financialy to/for this forum because... A) $25 or $50 is a pitence for someone willing to risk thousands for a profit., and....B) It's the right thing to do, to show legitimate support and appreciation for good people and useful information.
My two cents worth is that anyone who doesn't WANT to pay ( not just isn't WILLING to pay) is either one of the types you are trying to avoid with your tentative changes, or, is the type who is confused about how the world, and the realities of doing business in said world, really operates.
It is obvious that you have put much thought and consideration into this dilema, and if paying for Elite membership will help keep the forum the user-friendly resource that it now is, then I say it's a no-brainer.
I agree with placing all downloads (except screen shots) in the Elite section - this would certainly make it easier for people when participating in threads and wishing to include indicators.