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2 Points per day from ES??

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Ok, I'm starting this thread in off topic because I'm asking this more for fun than really serious but, who here thinks it's either "easy" or "realistic" to squeeze 2 points per day from the ES (or equivalent from whatever market you are trading?)

If I could dream, I would love to be able to trade 10 contracts and pull 2 points per day away and be done by 10am each day.....

Or better yet, trade 20 contracts and only have to pick up 1 point.... Or 40 contracts and pull 1/2 point....

Whatdy'all think? Can it be done ? Am I a crazy newb?

Two points a day. You can only take from the market what the market gives you. Trying to pick a number that the market gives you is not going to work. Volatility is volatility and it changes all the time.

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tammyd549 View Post
Ok, I'm starting this thread in off topic because I'm asking this more for fun than really serious but, who here thinks it's either "easy" or "realistic" to squeeze 2 points per day from the ES (or equivalent from whatever market you are trading?)

If I could dream, I would love to be able to trade 10 contracts and pull 2 points per day away and be done by 10am each day.....

Or better yet, trade 20 contracts and only have to pick up 1 point.... Or 40 contracts and pull 1/2 point....

Whatdy'all think? Can it be done ? Am I a crazy newb?

we can start with some general rules
- 10m chart
- 4 bars between a-b trend line
- wait until bar close to make decision

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Is anyone here able to get 2 points a day in Sim or Live?

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Is anyone here able to get 2 points a day in Sim or Live?


No.

I sim traded the ES for 3 months with a goal of 2 pts per car per day. I was trading 1 car. I had a 53% win rate. But commissions killed my P&L.

My problem was I had a 1:1 R/R. I have revised my rules and now only take trades with 1:2 R/R. My setup is a 1st car with a 1:1.5 R/R and the 2nd car with a 1:2 R/R. There are less setups in a day, but I am doing much better. Still trading in sim, but should be going live soon.

Yes I think there are people who take 2 pts out of the ES everyday. However, I think the average Joe would be better off looking at S&R for entries and exits. If the S&R will allow for more then 2pts, then why not take it, you don’t have to have a high win % to be profitable.

Being done by 10:00 AM would be nice, but I think you have to look at trading as a full time career. Some days will be easy (count your blessings) but most days will be a challenging.

Just my 2 cents.

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Is anyone here able to get 2 points a day in Sim or Live?


I have been on sim for the past 3 weeks and have averaged 2.04 points per day, trading between 1-5 contracts at a time on ES.

Just sim though.... real life will be much different, I can feel it....

I am hoping to go live in 2-3 weeks.

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This is the problem with most Sim trading - you're first in line in the order book so you get filled much easier than in real life.

As to the question - it is definitely possible to make 2 pt per day consistently, BUT unrealistic. Most days I'll scratch out a gain or a small loss - all the time trying to protect capital. Then a nice trend day comes along and it makes my month. But if you are targeting a specific profit, you're likely to taking yourself out of winners. This is the curse of the unprofitable trader. Same issue with scalping - you train yourself to exit winners, maximize losers and generate some nice commission for your broker.


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I have been on sim for the past 3 weeks and have averaged 2.04 points per day, trading between 1-5 contracts at a time on ES.

Just sim though.... real life will be much different, I can feel it....

I am hoping to go live in 2-3 weeks.


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not a healthy question to start into consistency territory, the first thing everybody's interested today: what can you make? lol - quite all you ever need if and if you have the skills and edge: know which times / days to take off and also personally where you 'break' point is...hardest thing for me to learn was to simply walk away.

there are also better instruments to take 100$ per car and day.

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Do you have a trading plan? Is this why you are asking the question so you can set target expectations? Do you work on your loss expectations in your trading plan also?

Professional traders don't think, "Look how much I could have made in that trade." They think, "Look how much I could have lost." Capital preservation is key to us retail traders.

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1. Protect your principal

2. Trade to trade well

If you do these two things, the money will come.

Focus on the execution, not the end result.

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My goal on the forex is 20pips a day. Once I reach this I'm done trading. 2 standard contracts trades.

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