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Hello I have been trading Russell 2000 on and off for many years. The past year my days have been occupied so I have been unable to watch the markets and trade at all. I'm not really interested in Stocks - overnight - swing trading etc... I would like some truly unbiased help on a great futures contract, preferably E-mini, that I could trade EST 7pm-12am. I know Asian markets have E-mini but I'm just confused with all the promotional banter as I look for the answer myself.

Thank you all

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Man if you find one, let me know...

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night trading
Hello I have been trading Russell 2000 on and off for many years. The past year my days have been occupied so I have been unable to watch the markets and trade at all. I'm not really interested in Stocks - overnight - swing trading etc... I would like some truly unbiased help on a great futures contract, preferably E-mini, that I could trade EST 7pm-12am. I know Asian markets have E-mini but I'm just confused with all the promotional banter as I look for the answer myself.

Thank you all

Here's a thread about trading the O/N session:

https://futures.io/traders-hideout/40485-who-trades-futures-wee-hours.html

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. - Wayne Gretsky
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Thank you for the link Iím going to read through it. Thanks. In the meantime Iíve heard about Mini Nikkei 225 Osaka-Japan jPXmay be a good fit. Any experiences?
Thanks

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I'd really love to be able to trade something that moves during the Asian session, but I'm cheap and just have the $5 CQG data feed

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Thank you for the link Iím going to read through it. Thanks. In the meantime Iíve heard about Mini Nikkei 225 Osaka-Japan jPXmay be a good fit. Any experiences?
Thanks

None personally, I trade the /ES and /NQ in the O/N session. Both have their personalities, if you will, and since I trade them during RTH, why change to something else?

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Rrrracer I am told itís 29.00 a month data feed for mini Nikkei 225. Not bad for a mini that supposedly has more volume than the Es

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Here's an example from tonight's ETH session on the /ES and how it's following the other major markets:

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Some options for Asian session markets (US Evening);

Mini-Nikkei on OSE
+ Highest volume on Asian futures
+ Some pretty good commission deals around (40yen per side)
- Volatility has dissipated this last 18 months (some days < 20 tick range)
- With the volatility low, market moves just happen in one go (often a couple sec burst) and that's it for the day.


KOSPI200 / Mini-KOSPI
+ Second Highest Volume on Asian Futures
+ Good participation, nice moves and volatility, orderly market auctioning
- Higher commissions (but still under 1 tick per r/t ratio (via IB anyway)
- Outside of IB, no-one else seems to support this market, which is a shame


HSI or Mini-HSI (Hang Seng)
+ Good daily volume
+/- If you love DAX, this is for you lol
+/- Crazy volatility
- I have seen massive moves 5-10min before major news releases, made me very weary.


SPI or Mini-SPI on SFE
+ Yay, Aussies have a futures market
..... thats about it, ok volatility, no volume to speak of (compared to any other mature market), questionable influence from big 4 banks, etc..

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So what you're saying is... I have to pay extra

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