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My purpose is to see proof that there are traders that make 200+ ticks per month, on average, every month. If it is reachable, why are there not a 1000 traders showing the world proof? I am not looking for education. Not looking for something easy with 10 min of work. Just looking for proof. Simple request. Nothing to get angry at.

Still waiting...

My sincere answer: for the amount of work you have to do as a proper trader, 200 ticks a month does not put food on the table. If my gross profit is $2,000, and I subtract the cost of my data feeds (about $500), internet $100, software licenses $250, etc. Why bother? I'd make more net after taxes flipping hamburgers.

Now, while simply posting brokerage statements might not bring the ire of the SEC, soliciting non-accredited investors does draw their attention.

So please approach your question in this light: perhaps you are most likely right. The vast majority of people do not post 200 tick profits per month. That's why you also see posts asking how to successfully trade on $5,000 accounts. (No offense to any who does, everyone starts someone, and maybe some offense tongue and cheek for those that genuinely believe you can in this example turn $5,000 into $24,000 every year with 100% probability).

Now, for those that might be "rumored" to be making more than 200 ticks per month, maybe do it the right way. Pull up the league tables of the top performing CTA's (which is by the way published). Send them the NDCA, send them certification of your accredited investor status, a letter of intent to keep your $1M USD gated for a minimum of a year, and I'm sure you'll be flooded with audited track records to secure your investment.

So perhaps here is my challenge to you...generate the above, and I will walk you over to one or two CTA's that meet your qualification and request. If you can't meet the CTA's requirements as a client, then unfortunately they will most likely not give you the time of day.

I hope you find the encouragement you are looking for in this venture OR alternatively proof that you should stay away from this endeavor because no one you can find is profitable.


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Manual trading, yes, but I'm not that greedy. I have a set $ limit per trading day, ~$100 per contract.

So I guess that's ~100-110 NQ ticks, or ~40-50 ES ticks, per month (averaged 21 trading days).

Except FOMC days, those days I SOH.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I don't manual trade ES - that thing is a beast. I let our algos handle that.

-Jimmy

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Do you know of any that I should look at?

There are many!
Just watch the most recent journal posts - there is a lot of going on
and read especially those that had been mentioned by some posters here.
With trades - with results - with discussion about. Exactly what is the
goal of this forum.

But:

I am sorry to see that after so many posts with hints to you in this thread - you
still do not want to follow any advice.
You have not read mentioned journals nor thanked the recent or mentioned posts
that were to see here. A short look at your statistics told me this.

Sad - No more input needed
GFIs1 seeing another troll gets caught

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There are many!
Just watch the most recent journal posts


Indeed. The OP has been told this many times, during the thread, but it appears that his response to it is simply to continue (and rather repeatedly) to say "I haven't seen any".

No disrespect intended at all, but I think it's perhaps a little unrealistic, when you've asked "where are they?" and people have told you where they are, to expect them all to appear in your own thread just because this is where you're asking?

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For what it is worth here is my last 2 and bit days of trading. It is not on what you are looking to trade but it is over 200 points (give or take) never the less. I have not traded the US markets because for me they are in the wrong time zone but I have had a look at them and they do not seem too different to trade. As many have said, you just have to know what you are doing.

ps I did not take all the trades that were available in that time. Sometimes you just get tired of looking at a screen!!

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Manual trading, yes, but I'm not that greedy. I have a set $ limit per trading day, ~$100 per contract.

So I guess that's ~100-110 NQ ticks, or ~40-50 ES ticks, per month (averaged 21 trading days).

Except FOMC days, those days I SOH.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I don't manual trade ES - that thing is a beast. I let our algos handle that.

Oops, that should have said points not ticks.

NQ the monthly target is 400-450 ticks, per contract.

-Jimmy
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That may be true but most golfers who are great can't wait to show you their scorecard. WHy would a successful trader be so bashful?

The thing is that in the trading world, a score card and a pay stub is pretty much the same thing.
Try walking into a random company and saying the following:
"I heard that it's possible to make $X amount a month, show me your pay stubs so I can see proof"

That won't go along so well will it?

Most traders don't want to show random people on the internet how many ticks they take in a month for the same reason non-traders don't like to tell everyone what their monthly salary is, privacy.

Now all of that aside, let's do the math
  • 200 ticks of the ES (12.50/tick) is $2,500.
  • If you have a $100,000 account, then that's a monthly ROI of 2.5%
  • In a year that is $30,000, and you aren't even including commissions on there so net would be a lot less.

If that seems impossible, you might want to reconsider your career choice. I don't know that many of us would be chasing the trading dream if that dream was $30,000 a year.

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...let's do the math
  • 200 ticks of the ES (12.50/tick) is $2,500.
  • If you have a $100,000 account, then that's a monthly ROI of 2.5%
  • In a year that is $30,000, and you aren't even including commissions on there so net would be a lot less.

If that seems impossible, you might want to reconsider your career choice. I don't know that many of us would be chasing the trading dream if that dream was $30,000 a year.

Bingo!

That math is uncompounded as well, if you're considering taking the $2500 monthly profits, every month.

I personally do quarterly draws of 1-3% of the account balance.

-Jimmy
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instead of losing time posting in a troll thread let go trading Guys


This is a 38T/contract trade taken 2 min ago.

Publish you all banking information publicly and I wire you half of that but you need to show me proff that your are in a financial needs lol


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This morning's NQ trade:
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