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I am reading it now. Do you know if it was daytrading while on a cruise or was it a buy and hold investing trade?

Also, any other months or just one month? I am looking for consistent, proven results.

It's all in his thread his trade journal. It seems he posts these screen shots as screencast images using snagit so you can not search through his attachments to find these. You are going to have to just page through his journal but its all there. Very generous of @Big Mike to do that. And he took some measure of slack from folks regarding it, hence he stopped.

Here is another post regarding a single day time period where he made over 128 ticks on ES https://futures.io/elite-trading-journals/1415-big-mike-s-day-trading-method-advice-26.html#post448499 This post will show you the time in trade as you were asking about. Make sure you click to enlarge the screencast image so you can witness all the details it's the little icon a square with an arrow pointing up and to the right. Then scroll to see all parts. There is much more to find in his journal but that is all I have time now to find for you. I hope that helps you.

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It's all in his thread his trade journal. It seems he posts these screen shots as screencast images using snagit so you can not search through his attachments to find these. You are going to have to just page through his journal but its all there. Very generous of @Big Mike to do that. And he took some measure of slack from folks regarding it, hence he stopped.

Here is another post regarding a single day time period where he made over 128 ticks on ES https://futures.io/elite-trading-journals/1415-big-mike-s-day-trading-method-advice-26.html#post448499 This post will show you the time in trade as you were asking about. Make sure you click to enlarge the screencast image so you can witness all the details it's the little icon a square with an arrow pointing up and to the right. Then scroll to see all parts. There is much more to find in his journal but that is all I have time now to find for you. I hope that helps you.

Ron

Thanks. Reading it now

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I don't use TST but I imagine they may have a leader board? I recall they published stuff on FB.

I have sympathy (otherwise better things to do than type here) with that sense of paranoia... is it all a scam? Why does a talented developer etc. become a vendor when one would imagine him making begillions etc..? The thoughts passed through my head.

Anyhoo, this is a Google indexed (completely exposed to the public) part of the forum. Nobody with sense and profitable traders have this, would post account statements here. You have psycho/sociopaths everywhere.. even... scam artists fishing for valid/current statement templates?? woooo...

Even a sniff of identity theft risk is drummed into everyone. Also whats Photoshop-proof (proof) anyway beyond a joint call to the broker? BM did so in that thread which was a rare event to save some people their sanity. Stating the obvious however its not a sports game where you look for sponsors, there is only unknown risk with verifying like you asking.

I know (now) that 200 single contract ticks are nothing to a liquid Futures trader who is trading multiple contracts with split targets etc. There is a leap of faith required maybe. I now accept 99.999% those BM statements are valid.


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I don't use TST but I imagine they may have a leader board? I recall they published stuff on FB.

I have sympathy (otherwise better things to do than type here) with that sense of paranoia... is it all a scam? Why does a talented developer etc. become a vendor when one would imagine him making begillions etc..? The thoughts passed through my head.

Anyhoo, this is a Google indexed (completely exposed to the public) part of the forum. Nobody with sense and profitable traders have this, would post account statements here. You have psycho/sociopaths everywhere.. even... scam artists fishing for valid/current statement templates?? woooo...

Even a sniff of identity theft risk is drummed into everyone. Also whats Photoshop-proof (proof) anyway beyond a joint call to the broker? BM did so in that thread which was a rare event to save some people their sanity. Stating the obvious however its not a sports game where you look for sponsors, there is only unknown risk with verifying like you asking.

I know (now) that 200 single contract ticks are nothing to a liquid Futures trader who is trading multiple contracts with split targets etc. There is a leap of faith required maybe. I now accept 99.999% those BM statements are valid.

I came across this and thought I would share it as it relates to not showing broker statements:

"If you ask a trader for an account statement that verifies trading success and they say, “I cannot show a trading statement because it is illegal”, then avoid this statement like your financial life depends upon it. This is the lamest, most BS riddled excuse in the trading world. It is true that a trader cannot mass market account statements without certain disclosures, but there is absolutely nothing illegal with a trader giving a private viewing of an account statement. They can publish it on their website with proper boiler plate disclosures, they can email it over to you, they can screen share, they can authorize their broker to speak with you about individual performance. There are a multitude of paths. Don't ever fall for the BS, “I have spoken to my lawyers and they said that I cannot disclose my trading performance”. Complete nonsense...Any trader that says that they cannot disclose individual trading performance because “their attorney said its illegal” is in the process of scamming you."

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Anyone willing to step forward yet?

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Unless you are trying to do business with someone, I fail to see any sort of incentive on this thread for somebody to give you proof that their system takes 200+ticks a month.

Internet points in exchange for personal trading information? Doesn't seem like an exchange most would be willing to take

Why don't you register for something like fundseeder, I'm told that you can benchmark your performance with other traders in there.

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Wow. Quoting Emmet Moore (the convicted Ponzi scheme criminal) and even that out of context? Not much anyone can say to you now. As said by @SoftSoap you are asking private traders, not businesses...

Sorry I tried.

Edit: I don't want to seem I'm attacking you because of that criminal.. But as honesty in the industry is being discussed here.. Emmett Moore defrauded a lot of people and having forgiven himself created trading schools as a thief-to-catch-a-thief enterprise. But its also a big scam I believe.

If E.M. publishes account statements showing he is repaying the millions of stolen money to investors like a friend of mine's widow who was in the same scheme or another just like it, I'll not be hostile to anything that promotes or enriches him or other psychopath personalities. His life was catastrophically shortened (yes, could not afford his health insurance and the worst happened). The idea of E.M. getting market share and becoming judge and jury makes me sick. Anybody but him.


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I will tell you a story. A trader I was talking to was making wild claims of 10-15 points per day trading ES. I took it upon myself to prove him a liar since all the trading forums said this wasn't possible. With lots of studying and screen time, I got to a point where making only 2 points in a day in ES felt like a losing day. Moral of the story, work hard, understand your instrument inside and out. I'm nowhere near where I want to be, but one thing I do know. Those who say things are not possible are only saying this out of their own failings. 50 points / month in ES is possible.

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Wow. Quoting Emmet Moore (the convicted Ponzi scheme criminal) and even that out of context? Not much anyone can say to you now. As said by @SoftSoap you are asking private traders, not businesses...

Sorry I tried.

Edit: I don't want to seem I'm attacking you because of that criminal.. But as honesty in the industry is being discussed here.. Emmett Moore defrauded a lot of people and having forgiven himself created trading schools as a thief-to-catch-a-thief enterprise. But its also a big scam I believe.

If E.M. publishes account statements showing he is repaying the millions of stolen money to investors like a friend of mine's widow who was in the same scheme or another just like it, I'll not be hostile to anything that promotes or enriches him or other psychopath personalities. His life was catastrophically shortened (yes, could not afford his health insurance and the worst happened). The idea of E.M. getting market share and becoming judge and jury makes me sick. Anybody but him.

I didn't know that about him. But what he says resonates about the lack of transparency in the trading community. So many traders relate golf to trading yet we never take someone's word for their golf game until we see them play. Scorecards work wonders in golf. They would work wonders for trading too.

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I will tell you a story. A trader I was talking to was making wild claims of 10-15 points per day trading ES. I took it upon myself to prove him a liar since all the trading forums said this wasn't possible. With lots of studying and screen time, I got to a point where making only 2 points in a day in ES felt like a losing day. Moral of the story, work hard, understand your instrument inside and out. I'm nowhere near where I want to be, but one thing I do know. Those who say things are not possible are only saying this out of their own failings. 50 points / month in ES is possible.

So many people make similar claims about how much money they are making in the ES, CL, etc. but I have never seen any proof. Nobody. It's amazing. You can watch videos of professional golfers, see scorecards, watch in slow motion. But not with trading.

Only words...

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Unless you are trying to do business with someone, I fail to see any sort of incentive on this thread for somebody to give you proof that their system takes 200+ticks a month.

Internet points in exchange for personal trading information? Doesn't seem like an exchange most would be willing to take

Why don't you register for something like fundseeder, I'm told that you can benchmark your performance with other traders in there.

That may be true but most golfers who are great can't wait to show you their scorecard. WHy would a successful trader be so bashful?

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