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Mini FDAX - FDXM from Eurex

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Your personal preference doesn't count. There is no serious argument current CFD's/Certificate traders should move to the miniFDAX.

As choke35 already said....it is a REGULATED market and I would always prefer a regulated vs an unregulated market.

Traders who already trade the FDAX won't move to the mini but traders who hedge via the FDAX may move to the mini.

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So traders being just fine trading in, in your words, "unregulated" markets won't be fine with it anymore after miniFDAX is issued ? If this is the only argument ... so be it.

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Your personal preference doesn't count.

That's no matter of personal preference but starts with logics.

If you think about ever having a theoretical edge over a non-DMA issuer and/or market-maker on which you depend for better or worse, dream on.
Anyone who gets that will prefer a regulated playing field that is at least as level as possible for as many as possible.
From there on it's hard (and sometimes maybe unfair) competition and you acting within .

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If the Eurex doesn't screw it up, I expect similar effects as in the US with the ES and other E-minis.
In the US, the mini asset class changed the entire market dynamics: Liquidity is much higher, spreads
are lower, RM/MM possibilities are better, and transparency is higher than they have ever been with full-sized
contracts (and more transparent than those of CFDs/Certs/Warrants anyway).

I guess a similar ratio like in oil. The CL now trades at 278K, the QM at 7k.

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I guess a similar ratio like in oil. The CL now trades at 278K, the QM at 7k.

I'm a little more optimistic since the ratio of mini index futures is normally better than the ratio of commodities.
Besides CL is already a comparably small (but very volatile) contract, only about 1/5 - 1/6 of a full-sized FDAX.

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If you think about ever having a theoretical edge over a non-DMA issuer and/or market-maker on which you depend for better or worse, dream on.

Are you seriously trading or are you just talking and hiding behind "regulated markets" ? Have you ever had to consider trading commissions and fees while trading SIGNIFICANT volume in one market/contract (>10%) and have you ever thought about the impact in your P/L? What do you expect to pay for a round-turn in the miniFDAX compared to your average volume and tick-size ?

Did you read my comments above ? Have you answered my questions ?

Do you seriously know what's about regulation in CFD's, Certificates, Warrants etc ? Do you know anything about DMA for Certificates, Warrents etc on the DAX and EUWAX etc ?

Have you ever considered any advantages/disadvantages for futures and certificates/warrants ... specially overnight ?

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Did you read my comments above ? Have you answered my questions ?

...

As said: I'd never try to convince the non-DMA/CFDs/Certs/Warrants buy side.

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As said: I'd never try to convince the non-DMA/CFDs/Certs/Warrants buy side.

So still no valid arguments, except "market regulation" and "non-DMA" ... which btw shows you aren't deeply into it. Otherwise you wouldn't use both arguments ....

Nevermind. Nice weekend.

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Useless discussion here.

If you don't accept the other side it is okay.

A professional trader should know what market fits to him.

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So still no valid arguments, except "market regulation" and "non-DMA" ... which btw shows you aren't deeply into it. Otherwise you wouldn't use both arguments ....

Nevermind. Nice weekend.

Up to now, more than a third of your 16 posts in 6 years are here repeating something that everyone already
understood when you wrote it for the first time. Don't you think, that's a little weird, honey?

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