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Can profitable active trades be made in ES after market hours?

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I find Asian session untradeable. No movement, no liquidity. Back when CL was in free fall there was some opportunity there though. Currently I don't even trade the European session due to the low volatility in Summer.

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Can anyone post a snapshot of ES' DOM during Asian and European hours?

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Can anyone post a snapshot of ES' DOM during Asian and European hours?



About 2:30am CT

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 Dorky 
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About 2:30am CT

Hey, thanks for the snapshot!

I take that as the European version of trading hours.

Hmm... the DOM may be several times less than regular trading hours, but I believe trades involving 100 contracts and less should still do fine.

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Hey, thanks for the snapshot!

I take that as the European version of trading hours.

Hmm... the DOM may be several times less than regular trading hours, but I believe trades involving 100 contracts and less should still do fine.

That looks more like Asian session

Euro is usually 200-300 deep, this is euro right now



Incidentally the market just had a good breakout from 82 with absorption to 87 of which I was not a part of lol.

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...there are no after market hours. Additionally, if you really study volume flow...you'll note that markets move quite well without much. Your fills may slip a bit though, if the smaller amount of volume is one sided in the moment you trade.

Your real enemy is fighting nature and your sleep patterns, which will cause more harm than good in the long run.

Best bet...establish your fills, targets, and stop loss points where you wish...then trundle off to work or sleep with peace of mind.

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That looks more like Asian session

Euro is usually 200-300 deep, this is euro right now



Incidentally the market just had a good breakout from 82 with absorption to 87 of which I was not a part of lol.


Thanks for that.
Looks good too.

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US Eastern here. I trade anywhere between 5AM-3PM.

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Deep,

May I call you this or am I being to cordial to soon? The short answer is yes but please understand that the ES does have stoppages daily and on Friday until late Sunday afternoon. I find that at times I'll carry out a position if I'm working in a deep trend, furthermore if I'm awake early enough (I live on the west coast, United States) I'll buy into a developing trend pre-market hours. Often times some of the best action can be in the hour after the regular markets open as over night gaps tend to deepen or reverse so if you're only trading in the normal block hours you're going to miss opportunity. Now with all of this said I enjoy going to bed at night clean, most of the time, as I find I sleep much better. I'm not certain I could make it as a trader if I were limited to only after hours action. Additionally, this will depend on what instrument you trade. For example ES futures and options on futures will work but if your trading options on SPY they will close out at 4:15 daily. I trade the SPY options frequently so this factors into my timing as well. If I carry out I'll switch to options on the ES futures late day for trades that might be effected. Different animal though and one that takes many years of professional mentorship and practice on a paper trade account. I'm not saying options on SPY are a easy but one less layer of thought at least in my opinion. I should say I also respect others views on this subject these are just my thought.

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