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Osaka Nikkei 225 mini index futures

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Hi,

I have found the Nikkei to be not enough volatile for me but liquidity is good.

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Can I ask a question from an volatility trader's POV?

Nikkei is not volatile enough compared to what? SPX? DAX? At least in terms of IV as expressed by NKvi it's been significantly if not vastly higher than SPX and DAX in 2016.

I thought the conventional wisdom was that Japan always falls further and faster than the other major indexes.

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Here's another rendering based on front month futures contracts, VXX vs 2015.T (which is the Nikkei Volatility Index product counterpart to VXX):

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Can I ask a question from an volatility trader's POV?

Nikkei is not volatile enough compared to what? SPX? DAX? At least in terms of IV as expressed by NKvi it's been significantly if not vastly higher than SPX and DAX in 2016.

Hi,
I meant in terms of moving ticks per session. You might be right in term of % or points idk.

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Hi,
I meant in terms of moving ticks per session. You might be right in term of % or points idk.

regards

It has plenty of movement for day trading. Believe me - I primarily trade this instrument, and it behaves similarly to the ES. Some days may be dull, but that is the same with the ES or other index futures. People weren't complaining much when the ES averaged 10 points. I try and equate 1 ES point with 4 ticks on the N225M. I also consider 4 ticks to be a minimum scalp target. 10 points * 4 ticks = 40 ticks on the N225M to be equal to around 10 points on the ES. 40 ticks * 5 yen = 200 yen move on the N225M. So, a 200+ yen daily average range (each tick is a 5 yen move on the index) is more than sufficient to trade this instrument. Of course, the average daily range is bigger than this. Just look at a few charts going back a few months, and you will see for yourself.

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Would someone post a 5 min chart so I can see how it behave.

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Hi,
I meant in terms of moving ticks per session. You might be right in term of % or points idk.

regards

Is a 500+ point move enough for you!?

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500 point's move on NK mean that it is a 100 tick's.Average is much lower.Compare it with Dax or Dow - 200 point's in DAX mean ... 400 ticks (0.5 point move). For some Eurodollar (GE) or 2y bond are great with few ticks per day while other's like Dax with his wild behavior.Personally I like something in the middle of that - and Nikkei is good on this.

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Would someone post a 5 min chart so I can see how it behave.

Thanks

@mangolassi

Hi, given you use SierraChart, is there any chance you could post your .scid file for the mini contract?

I use the TT feed with SC and AMP don't provide the mini contract via TT and I don't want to change my Live datafeed to CQG just to play around with miniNikkei.

If I could get your .scid file for the current front month (and maybe the previous front month as well), I could have a little play around and see if the mini will be useful for me.

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Is a 500+ point move enough for you!?

hey give me a break !

1st, this thread is not about me but about the mini nikkei

2nd, you probably know already but this move is far out of the average.

3rd, if you trade it and like it etc, good for you. If you read correctly I never said it was a bad instrument, I said it was not enough volatile in ticks for me.


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hey give me a break !

1st, this thread is not about me but about the mini nikkei

2nd, you probably know already but this move is far out of the average.

3rd, if you trade it and like it etc, good for you. If you read correctly I never said it was a bad instrument, I said it was not enough volatile in ticks for me.


peace, happy trading

Haha relax dude, I was just having a laugh. Yesterday's move was crazy!

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