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Osaka Nikkei 225 mini index futures

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Thanks, Schaefer. Can I ask you which data provider you used, and how much it cost? I am looking to trade the N225M intraday.

I looked up the commissions on IB's site, and it seems it is only 80 Yen roundturn (roughly 65 cents). On their website, it says:

"Our Fixed pricing for futures in non-US markets charges a single flat rate per contract or percent of trade value, including all commissions, exchange, regulatory, clearing and carrying fees."

Were there any additional costs associated with trading this instrument other than data and the 80 Yen commission?


Well, when I traded back in 2007 - 2008 through IB, it was around 300 Yen per round trip. I used IB's data feed to trade, but I think, I've used IQ feed for demo, as well. Not sure, IQ feed might have been for Taiwan STW. I'd rather trade STW, or HSI Mini, if I were you. Osaka Nikkei mini is good for swing trading.

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Well, when I traded back in 2007 - 2008 through IB, it was around 300 Yen per round trip. I used IB's data feed to trade, but I think, I've used IQ feed for demo, as well. Not sure, IQ feed might have been for Taiwan STW. I'd rather trade STW, or HSI Mini, if I were you. Osaka Nikkei mini is good for swing trading.

Schaefer

Wow, 300 Yen does seem a bit ridiculous. No wonder you hated this instrument!

Why do you think it is not good for intraday trading? Liquidity is enormous, apparently close to the ES, and that should make for a great day trading instrument.

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Wow, 300 Yen does seem a bit ridiculous. No wonder you hated this instrument!

Why do you think it is not good for intraday trading? Liquidity is enormous, apparently close to the ES, and that should make for a great day trading instrument.


I'm not sure how the volatility looks like right now, but back then it was pretty much watching paint dry, and with high commission rates, it was a no win situation for me.

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I'm not sure how the volatility looks like right now, but back then it was pretty much watching paint dry, and with high commission rates, it was a no win situation for me.

Schaefer


Thanks, man. So liquidity is high, but volatility is low?? :/

Is there a way to look at end-of-day intraday charts on the N225M?


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How is trading Nikkei 225 on CME compared to other exchanges?

How do you guys decide which exchange to trade the Nikkei on?

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How is trading Nikkei 225 on CME compared to other exchanges?

How do you guys decide which exchange to trade the Nikkei on?

The CME mini Nikkei 225 product is not very tradable - very low liquidity. The Osaka Exchange product is highly liquid and is the real deal. As for deciding which product to trade, you should be looking at liquidity as one of the most critical features.

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The CME mini Nikkei 225 product is not very tradable - very low liquidity. The Osaka Exchange product is highly liquid and is the real deal. As for deciding which product to trade, you should be looking at liquidity as one of the most critical features.

How about SGX?

Do they all move in tandem with each others - in terms of price?

I think if I'm looking to trade no more than 10 contracts, CME have enough liquidity. In term of commission, who is the cheapest?

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SGX nikkei is liquid enough to day trade. a lot of people do. there are people that arb between sgx and osaka contracts.

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Im looking for new broker with Topix and Nk225 Mini from ,,old'' OSE,is there any other then IB who offer them ?

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Im looking for new broker with Topix and Nk225 Mini from ,,old'' OSE,is there any other then IB who offer them ?


Not that I know of. I think IB is the only one for US traders, at least.

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