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Greetings futures.io (formerly BMT) and Community,

My first topic on futures.io (formerly BMT).

Are there any traders here,who take only Long or Short trades?If so,which method for determine the cycles has proved to be worthy for you?What kind of the Wave,Cycle theory is applicable for the Index Futures?Any recommendations are very welcome.

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Greetings futures.io (formerly BMT) and Community,

My first topic on futures.io (formerly BMT).

Are there any traders here,who take only Long or Short trades?If so,which method for determine the cycles has proved to be worthy for you?What kind of the Wave,Cycle theory is applicable for the Index Futures?Any recommendations are very welcome.

Thanks!

One of the advantages of futures is that - unlike stocks - you can easily trade both sides. So I don't see the point just trading from the long side.

If you ask about asymmetry between longs and shorts, index futures behave in a similar fahsion as stock. Volatility increases when they move down. For commodity futures it is often the inverse, as they may spike to the upside.

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Greetings futures.io (formerly BMT) and Community,

My first topic on futures.io (formerly BMT).

Are there any traders here,who take only Long or Short trades?If so,which method for determine the cycles has proved to be worthy for you?What kind of the Wave,Cycle theory is applicable for the Index Futures?Any recommendations are very welcome.

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If I may ask, why would you want to do this? Personally I dont see the point of being a permabear or bull. Far too much lost opportunity. Just curious as to your thinking.

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If I may ask, why would you want to do this? Personally I dont see the point of being a permabear or bull. Far too much lost opportunity. Just curious as to your thinking.

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To answer your Q In short,i have no experience in trading with stops.Never used them before and have no willing to learn it.Im a slow mover and wiiling to wait for the opportunity day,two-three days.As for the opportunity,i don`t think that intraday trading with stops will ever beat the swing trading,unless you have Ivy Bridge Core i7 inside and BP to trade 100 contracts a pop.Neither i have.If we put an equal chunk,let`s say 20K each, into trading,i`m sure i`ll beat you in the long run.Trading is not about how much you make per day(IMO).

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One of the advantages of futures is that - unlike stocks - you can easily trade both sides. So I don't see the point just trading from the long side.

If you ask about asymmetry between longs and shorts, index futures behave in a similar fahsion as stock. Volatility increases when they move down. For commodity futures it is often the inverse, as they may spike to the upside.

Effective scalping from both sides requires a vast amount of money!Apart from that,the ratio for the 100% trades you make will be 1/3,1/3,1/3 for the scratch,winning and losing trades correspondingly.So you`d need at least 3:1 or 5:1 RR ratio to be something.If someone here is able to spot at least 2-3 trades with such ratio on a daily basis,at least YTD,i`d be glad if they share their experience.But more often,it`s not the case.

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Effective scalping from both sides requires a vast amount of money!....

Is it me who thinks wrongly that trading with no stop requires more money.

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To answer your Q In short,i have no experience in trading with stops.Never used them before and have no willing to learn it.

So many red flags, so little time.


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If we put an equal chunk,let`s say 20K each, into trading,i`m sure i`ll beat you in the long run.Trading is not about how much you make per day(IMO).

Im not sure how a question about your logic of only trading in one direction made you want to prove what a great trader you are.

Back to the question, why do you want to only trade in one direction? Im not sure the reason of 'You dont know how to use stops' answers that. I asked the question because I am truly interested, I can't seem to see the reasoning, so I asked.

ps. Who sais multi-day / week / month swing trades can't be to the short or long side?

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To answer your Q In short,i have no experience in trading with stops.Never used them before and have no willing to learn it.Im a slow mover and wiiling to wait for the opportunity day,two-three days.As for the opportunity,i don`t think that intraday trading with stops will ever beat the swing trading,unless you have Ivy Bridge Core i7 inside and BP to trade 100 contracts a pop.Neither i have.If we put an equal chunk,let`s say 20K each, into trading,i`m sure i`ll beat you in the long run.Trading is not about how much you make per day(IMO).

Stops are just a way to control your risk. of course, if you are rich, you do not need to control your risk.

But your question was about trading the market from one side only. This has nothing to do with stops, as you can trade both directions with or without stops.

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Back to the question, why do you want to only trade in one direction? Im not sure the reason of 'You dont know how to use stops' answers that. I asked the question because I am truly interested, I can't seem to see the reasoning, so I asked.

I`ll try to answer.Two reasons: 1)Intraday doesn`t fit;2)The market ic cyclic.Did i answer you Q`s?I hope so.Now can we get back to the topic,please?Are there one side traders in here?Which marke theory you use to determine the midterm market cycles in index futures?

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