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I guess I wondered how different other instruments are. I want to know that if I can follow a trend or spot a reversal in the ES, can I do it anywhere? I learned on the ES and that is all I know. Are they all the same?

OK, here are few:

E-mini Dow (YM) -- behaving parallel to ES
30 Year T-Bonds (ZB) -- counter to ES
10 Year Notes (ZN) -- counter
Euro FX futures (6E) -- parallel
Gold (GC, ZG)-- currently vary

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Should I be considering another instrument when action has been so choppy? I read one persons commentary that there are much better places to be trading right now besides the ES. Next, if I do stop trading the ES, what are my odds with another instrument as a new trader? Hey, I'm just paper trading right now anyway but it's not something I hear many people talk about so I wonder if most just stick out the ES for better times?

I would say to keep eyes on other markets, learn a little about different markets and how the relate, but don't stop trading the ES. Part of developing as a trader is knowing when to avoid the market, so while the trading may be crappy right now, the lesson is valuable.

That being said all the markets have different personalities, find the one that suits you.

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hello, I'm trading NQ, I found NQ will move much more than ES does(more than double). However, they are always go into same direction.

I knew some of trader will trade at least 2 different instrument: stock index vs gold/oil/currency etc.

Thats ensure they will not sit whole day with nth to do~

Good advice. Thank you.

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hello, I'm trading NQ, I found NQ will move much more than ES does(more than double). However, they are always go into same direction.

I knew some of trader will trade at least 2 different instrument: stock index vs gold/oil/currency etc.

Thats ensure they will not sit whole day with nth to do~

Exactly what I do Gold, Oil, S&P, sometimes Euro but I find EUR/USD so slow. I use the SPY instead of the ES to trade the S&P because the SPY is much more volatile then the ES. Using the same range bar period the SPY will generally produce 3 to 4 times the number of range bars then the ES will during a typical trading day. For me, more range, more bars, means more opportunities.

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