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Market knows when you placed a trade

I'm trying to get a hold of enough data here which backs of the point that the market knows whos in a trade, and they'll do anything for you to lose money. Thats my experience, I trade on a 1 hour time frame. It seems when I place a trade it always goes the opposite direction. I get out of the trade, then it ends up going to intended direction. I feel lot of people know what i'm talking about. Only the big guys can benefit from trading, the ones who have the cash to move the market.

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Yeah, the big guys monitor every trade I make.....they hold price until I get in and then Whamo...they get me.

Joking aside and without writing abook about it what it comes down to is buying or selling in key areas...high probability spots that will hold the area that you initiate a trade from and using an appropriate stop....not to tight.

Base your stop on what your seeing as average drawdown for the instrument your trading maybe...there's a million ways to determine stop placements but I'm not getting in to that.

Price coming back at you happens to everyone, what saves you and makes you profit is being in a spot that will hold and propel price to move in your direction....

So what it comes down to is figuring out those spots....that's the whole deal more or less

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I'm trying to get a hold of enough data here which backs of the point that the market knows whos in a trade, and they'll do anything for you to lose money. Thats my experience, I trade on a 1 hour time frame. It seems when I place a trade it always goes the opposite direction. I get out of the trade, then it ends up going to intended direction. I feel lot of people know what i'm talking about. Only the big guys can benefit from trading, the ones who have the cash to move the market.

Here's a thing you should do...

1 - figure out the size of your loss
2 - figure out the size required to move the market to your stop loss

What you are doing is - getting in at the wrong point.

The market often moves against me when I enter a trade. Still, it doesn't happen often enough for me to think "It's them"...

It's not them, my friend, it's you....

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I'm trying to get a hold of enough data here which backs of the point that the market knows whos in a trade, and they'll do anything for you to lose money. Thats my experience, I trade on a 1 hour time frame. It seems when I place a trade it always goes the opposite direction. I get out of the trade, then it ends up going to intended direction. I feel lot of people know what i'm talking about. Only the big guys can benefit from trading, the ones who have the cash to move the market.




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I'm trying to get a hold of enough data here which backs of the point that the market knows whos in a trade, and they'll do anything for you to lose money. Thats my experience, I trade on a 1 hour time frame. It seems when I place a trade it always goes the opposite direction. I get out of the trade, then it ends up going to intended direction. I feel lot of people know what i'm talking about. Only the big guys can benefit from trading, the ones who have the cash to move the market.

It's you, not the market.

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I couldn't imagine anything less efficient than a market that gives a damn about the totally irrelevant position of a single tiny retail trader.

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