ohh boy..
thats just funny..

when i first saw your topic, i commented but didnt follow it..
so today i got in here and started reading from page 1 to 7.. and along the reading i started to see so many things in common,

- the renko charts (okay, thats just the obvious one)
- the 2-3 ticks exit
- the lack or few money management
- the amazing ability to miss big runs in trends (whether they are up or down)

i have also realized some differences, like your story through trading, and the way you usually get out of a trade, by allowing one one final contract to keep running .. i dont. i just buy all them at once and sell all of them at once.

however, the similarities are much stronger, so lets focus on them..
so right after finishing reading i decided to plot your setup in my 2 renko chart
guess what i found ?
your 10 and 21 doch, match exactly my 10 sma and 60 linear regression lines i use.
we basically get the same entries and exits, not to mention our 2-3 ticks out
the only difference is you use another criteria to get in, something to do with spaces, as far as i have understood

go ahead and try plotting a 10 sma at your chart and a 10 dochanian and you will see how it perfectly matches, they are almost the same thing.
now put a 60 linear regression, thats where difference kicks in, in some cases your 21 doch manage to get a reverse faster than my 60 linreg , some other times i manage to get the reverse before you do.
interesting, isnt it ?


i guess a picture worths a thousand words..

Hello,

First time trying to teach the way I trade the ES. I have been trading the ES for almost 10 years now, full time from 02-07, then started another business and then traded it part time up to now. Years ago I could hardly see the price bars under all the indicators "I had to have to trade", needless to say I never really made a lot of money that way. I have tried almost everything under the sun to make money, now this is my opinion but price rules and anything you look at should only help you confirm what you SEE on your chart already.

Scalping the ES can be fast and deadly if you don't already know what you need to do, before price gets to you! Nothing can help you more than knowing how the ES moves, and the only thing that can teach you that is TIME watching and SIM trading. Over the next few weeks I will attempt to show, educate, and teach how I scalp the ES for 2 points a day. Anything I say is just my opinion, right or wrong, not trying to get anyone upset.

For my set up, I tend to FAVOR the FIRST pullback after a TREND CHANGE. Depending on how the day is shaping up helps me decide if I will take the 2nd or 3rd set up in that trend. Please REMEMBER when I am Scalping, a TREND might last only 5 minutes, so don't get married to any 1 trade.

Money management: I hate to teach this, that is up to you, I will give you the guide lines that I tend to follow. I like to get in and out fast, I like to take money off the table when I have profit. I tend to exit 2/3 to 3/4 of my trade at 2-3 ticks, hold the rest for 6 ticks after a BE stop....That's me, as you get a feel for this you need to see what works for you.

Charts: "Trend Chart", I use a Renko 2 tick size box
"Trading/Entry Chart", I like the 350 Tick

Trend: If the Renko Bars are Above the the Dark Brown 21 Donchian Channel "Mean" line = UP TREND
If the Renko Bars are Below the the Dark Brown 21 Donchian Channel "Mean" line = DN TREND
You should be able to "SEE" this, when bars are trading around the line, be careful, just wait, the trade WILL come!

Pull Back = Renko price bars are trading back near the orange 10 DC Mean line and the 21 Mean line

Long Entry = When the Renko chart breaks out from below the line to above the line, then shows a pullback to towards the lines look at your 350 tick chart......IF the upper Donchian Channel (DC) has moved up, AND you can SEE SPACE between the price bars and the DC mean line then enter your trade entry at or a tick above the 21 Mean line for your entry. Picture are worth 100 words so I will try and teach off the charts.

Short Entry = When the Renko chart breaks out from above the line to below the line, then shows a pullback to towards the lines look at your 350 tick chart......IF the lower Donchian Channel (DC) has moved down, AND you can SEE SPACE between the price bars and the DC mean line then enter your trade entry at or a tick below the 21 Mean line for your entry.

Thanks
Jeff Dixon

You can post questions/charts here and I will do my best to answer them for you, I work from about 4 in the morning to 4 in the afternoon, and I trade off my iPad during the day, but I will get to you.

I will attempt to attach a workspace or at least the two chart templates for your ease.

What size is your initial stop loss?

i dont have a fixed one. but we can say, 9 ticks.. its usually where the reversals in my chart happens

RYFO Rip Your Face Off

could you pl explain why is there no arrow at 10.12 and 12.54 in this chart, when DC went below and over like you said the rules. appreciate your response,. thks