NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





ES and the Great POMO Rally


Discussion in Emini and Emicro Index

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one tigertrader with 248 posts (470 thanks)
    2. looks_two Private Banker with 215 posts (418 thanks)
    3. looks_3 Michael.H with 58 posts (72 thanks)
    4. looks_4 Big Mike with 56 posts (72 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one tigertrader with 1.9 thanks per post
    2. looks_two Private Banker with 1.9 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 Big Mike with 1.3 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 Michael.H with 1.2 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 196,830 views
    2. thumb_up 1,529 thanks given
    3. group 37 followers
    1. forum 926 posts
    2. attach_file 631 attachments




 
Search this Thread

ES and the Great POMO Rally

  #391 (permalink)
 
Private Banker's Avatar
 Private Banker 
La Jolla, CA
 
Experience: Master
Platform: Sierra Chart, X_Trader Pro, OptionsCity
Broker: Advantage, Trading Technologies, OptionsCity, IQ Feed
Trading: CL, NG
Posts: 1,038 since Jul 2010
Thanks Given: 1,713
Thanks Received: 3,863


jonc View Post
PB, isn't a weak dollar a concern at all for the government? While I understand that a weak dollar will reduce the burden of the debt which US has but am I right to say they would also not want to see the destruction of the dollar?

Do you see the Fed would act to strengthen the dollar H2 of this year?

Yeah, I would think it would be a concern however, they are doing nothing to correct the situation. This is all a direct result of the Fed's QE and are trying to figure a way out of the corner they've painted themselves into. The drop in the USD has been occurring for quite some time now but is finally receiving more recognition now that we are taking out previous low's.

This is causing inflation in all things important and will undoubtedly have adverse effects on the economy (in fact, it already is). The term now often used by Bernanke is "Transitory". Well, we now have an equivalent to "Contained" which was his previous last buzz word. And we all know what happened there.

So, in order for the Fed to strengthen the dollar, they would have to end QE and decrease the money supply by selling U.S. Treasuries. Those are two things I don't see happening anytime soon. This would make interest rates go up and stop all the so called "growth" in it's tracks. Housing if not already toast would take another huge step down and stocks would correct big time.

Cheers,
PB

Started this thread Reply With Quote
Thanked by:

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
MC PL editor upgrade
MultiCharts
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
Pivot Indicator like the old SwingTemp by Big Mike
NinjaTrader
PowerLanguage & EasyLanguage. How to get the platfor …
EasyLanguage Programming
How to apply profiles
Traders Hideout
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on NexusFi
Spoo-nalysis ES e-mini futures S&P 500
29 thanks
Tao te Trade: way of the WLD
24 thanks
Just another trading journal: PA, Wyckoff & Trends
24 thanks
Bigger Wins or Fewer Losses?
21 thanks
GFIs1 1 DAX trade per day journal
17 thanks
  #392 (permalink)
 zt379 
UK London
 
Platform: NT
Posts: 2,052 since Sep 2009
Thanks Given: 1,573
Thanks Received: 1,951

Two videos about that topic "growth".
Hope they are of interest to this interesting thread.

Chilean Economist Manfred Max-Neef interview on Democracy Now:

Chilean Economist Manfred Max-Neef: US Is Becoming an "Underdeveloping Nation"

Dr Albert .A. Bartlett:

YouTube - The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 1 of 8)

Kind Regards

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #393 (permalink)
 jonc 
australia
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: NinjaTrader
Trading: -
Posts: 303 since Sep 2010
Thanks Given: 123
Thanks Received: 140


Do you guys see the time to take a short position is here?

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #394 (permalink)
 
whatnext's Avatar
 whatnext 
Rockland county , New York
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT 7
Trading: CL, 6E, SI, ZC
Posts: 230 since Mar 2011
Thanks Given: 338
Thanks Received: 81

I don't trade it but there are a few support levels it just bounced off of on a daily OHLC chart.
  • bottom trend line since mid-March
  • support from early March and April
  • bollinger band mid-line
MACD and Slow Stochastics are bearish.


Maybe I'd start trying to establish short positions at 132, lookout for resistance at 130, and tighten SL at 127.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	es 5 7 11.png
Views:	156
Size:	44.4 KB
ID:	38212  
Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #395 (permalink)
 
Private Banker's Avatar
 Private Banker 
La Jolla, CA
 
Experience: Master
Platform: Sierra Chart, X_Trader Pro, OptionsCity
Broker: Advantage, Trading Technologies, OptionsCity, IQ Feed
Trading: CL, NG
Posts: 1,038 since Jul 2010
Thanks Given: 1,713
Thanks Received: 3,863


jonc View Post
Do you guys see the time to take a short position is here?

I would agree with Whatnext on this. There appears to be a lot of support that would need to break down before I would look to start building a short position. Also, QE 2 is still running which as I've said before, is providing an endless bid. It'll be interesting to see if the massive selling taking place in other markets will bleed into equities. If it does, we could get some intense margin selling. We'll have to see though, I'm neutral right now and waiting to see what the Fed does. My intraday trading in CL has been consuming most of my time lately anyway so, I'm content with just waiting for equities to actually do something.

Cheers,
PB

Started this thread Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #396 (permalink)
 Michael.H 
CA
 
Experience: Master
Platform: Marketdelta and Ninja
Broker: Velocity
Trading: NQ
Posts: 663 since Apr 2010
Thanks Given: 64
Thanks Received: 529

Read rule #7 on this post, and you'll understand why i kept saying buy the pullbacks instead of shorting tops. Remember, this doesn't even take into consideration that you can trail when it keeps going higher after it breaks new highs.


Reply With Quote
  #397 (permalink)
 
David_R's Avatar
 David_R 
San Jose, Ca
Legendary Market Wizard
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Ninja
Broker: AMP/CQG
Trading: Something moving
Posts: 1,582 since Nov 2009
Thanks Given: 2,335
Thanks Received: 2,524


jonc View Post
Do you guys see the time to take a short position is here?

I agree with what the others have said. I've posted a chart that explains what i see.

One thing I have learned the hard way in this business is to never assume anything. Whether you feel the rally has gone on long enough or whether you feel the indexes should fall because other instruments have fallen has no meaning. The markets don't care how you feel or what you think.

You asked if it may be time to take a short position. The ES is in an uptrend. I've drawn two channels and neither has been violated yet. Its still making higher highs and higher lows. Until it changes that behavior then there is no reason to take a short, unless of course it is an intra-day trade.

I posted a possible inverted Head and shoulders chart in this thread not too far back. If the pattern plays out to its potential it targets the 1430 area. So far we are only testing the Neckline of the HnS as well as the uptrend line. I guess we will see what the outcome is in the days to come.

I didn't mean to sound like a smart ass. Sorry if I came across that way.

David

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	esdaily_5711.jpg
Views:	174
Size:	429.3 KB
ID:	38219  
Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #398 (permalink)
 
whatnext's Avatar
 whatnext 
Rockland county , New York
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT 7
Trading: CL, 6E, SI, ZC
Posts: 230 since Mar 2011
Thanks Given: 338
Thanks Received: 81

Great info - there's a lot to learn from you three.

I'm very interested as to your methodology of entering and then building on positions. Learning the signals that lead you to enter and what determines the size of contracts purchased would help me (and others) grow as a trader.

If you have said it all in other posts I'll search around if needs be - but it might take a long time.

I can detail what has worked well for me recently, its draw backs, the occasionally recurring emotional errors in judgement that have limited success and future plans on combining day trading with multi-day contracts - if anyone is interested. Haven't slept in way too long and probably should before doing so - and the markets aren't even open!

The link Michael.H gave to Anagami's thread on Donchian is well worth the DL and print out IMO. I have some questions about Michael's comment.

David R: I've only used long H&S patterns as verification of broader direction. It's hard for me to tell which way they will break and TL's make the picture clearer - maybe just because the don't often set up like that.

Night.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #399 (permalink)
 
whatnext's Avatar
 whatnext 
Rockland county , New York
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT 7
Trading: CL, 6E, SI, ZC
Posts: 230 since Mar 2011
Thanks Given: 338
Thanks Received: 81


Michael.H View Post
Read rule #7 on this post, and you'll understand why i kept saying buy the pullbacks instead of shorting tops. Remember, this doesn't even take into consideration that you can trail when it keeps going higher after it breaks new highs.


Key point of Rule 7: Shorting (non-leveraged) a decline from 50 to 25 will gain 50% - while going long (non-leveraged) from 25 to 50 will gain 100%.

Michael: Are you talking about a close trail where you would lose previous contracts in the correction and rebuy entirely again - or a loose trail at X% of loss or the last correction and breakout level?

If you are exiting all previous longs when the correction comes what would be the problem with trying to short it for a bit?

If holding on to past contracts (in a future with leverage and movement like the ES) what would be the problem with shorting the correction with the money you are going to use to add on to that position when it rebounds.

If someone could short 30% of the correction they would hedge against losses and against the % difference of rule 7 for the re-buy.

Didn't occur to me at first but when trading only stocks there were too many charts to focus on to do this - maybe that's the case for Michael.

Others input welcomed.

Reply With Quote
  #400 (permalink)
 Michael.H 
CA
 
Experience: Master
Platform: Marketdelta and Ninja
Broker: Velocity
Trading: NQ
Posts: 663 since Apr 2010
Thanks Given: 64
Thanks Received: 529


Your talking about money/trade management. I was simply implying that its easier to ride the trend instead of picking tops. Thats it. Im not gonna get into trade details with you. Ill let private banker or anyone else that wants to help comment on that.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:




Last Updated on November 9, 2014


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts