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Hi everyone, this is my first post here so I hope I picked the right category for it. If not, I'm sorry.

I am moving to futures form fx space and since I live in Europe my time schedule allows me to trade only during the first few hours of the European session, so, unfortunately, I am not able to trade ES during RTH.

That's why I want to pick one Eurex product to day-trade.

I pretty much trade with Volume/Market profile + watching DOM, footprint chart and Cumulative Delta.

Right now I am pretty much picking between Dax, Fesx and Bund and I would love to hear opinions of those who already trade these products.

So my questions are, should one Trade and Chart FDAX or Mini-Dax? I see Mini Dax has less daily volumes but generally bigger size during the Dom and no spread during the day. What are your general experiences with those products? Isn't Dax too thin to have some real edge with watching order flow? Any Stoxx or Bund traders here? How do you like those markets?

As I only want to pick one of those, I am leaning towards FESX right now even though it's pretty slow but I had a hard time having clean read in Bunds.

Thanks a lot for any replies.

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Hi from Prague

In times when I was trading dax I was using a FDAX charts etc and DOM from FDXM maily because of tick size and margin requirements.

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Hi form Germany,

based on my personal experience in the last years FDAX is very difficult to trade by DOM due to its ultra thin order book. You often have just 1-2 contracts per level and if algos are active it's a wild up and down which is great if you're on the right side, but if not the tick-size of 12,50 € can harm your account very seriously. FDAX-Mini is a little bit thicker, but also huge and fast moves you don't want to be on the wrong side. I would suggest to have a multiple DOMs open with FDAX, FDAX-Mini, FESX (fat order book), FGBL and 6E to find out which one fits to your risk management and more important to see how these markets correlate to each other i.e. FDAX + FESX + EMini S&P (1. Half of Eurex session) have the tendency to go into the same direction and FGBL and by time 6E into the opposite one. You can use FDAX and it's fast reaction to trigger trades in thicker markets like the FESX or counter position in FGBL.
You may want to have a look at the videos from axiafutures on youtube. They share a lot of insides for the Eurex market and many of their traders focus on FGBL as one of their markets...

All the best

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Did you check the initial margin for FDAX - it's almost 50K Euros! mini-Dax is ~1/5th that amoun. Be extremely careful with FDAX.
You can check exchange margins here for Eurex

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