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 trepidation 
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The limit down was pretty wild. Ninjatrader just doubled intraday margins for indices, interest rates and energies...


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Anyone know if any other brokers increased from 500 --> 1000 intraday margin?

Wondering how long the margin increase will be in effect for. In the past, is it typically for 1 day, or has it lasted weeks?

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Typically lasts a little longer. VIX is above 50 - it'll have to come down for margins to come down.

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Typically lasts a little longer. VIX is above 50 - it'll have to come down for margins to come down.

Now NT increased to 5x intraday margin....
Anyone know if other $500 margin brokers doing similar or only NT?

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Now NT increased to 5x intraday margin....
Anyone know if other $500 margin brokers doing similar or only NT?

I couldn't say, but you would expect most firms to tighten up, especially the ones that have low intraday margins. Whether they tighten or not, it's probably a very bad idea to be trading at all in the futures markets right now.

The firms are wanting you to have more margin because they will be stuck with your trades, and your losses, if you don't have the margin to cover the loss. And they know full well that many under-capitalized (as well as well-capitalized and even over-capitalized) accounts will be belly up from what is happening now.

This will pass, but right now it's not all that safe. Sitting and watching is a much better idea.

Bob.

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We went from ETH Limit Down 5% to RTH Limit Down 7% immediately as soon as trading started. Yeah, Ninja just upped their margins 5x.

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Anyone know if any other brokers increased from 500 --> 1000 intraday margin?

Wondering how long the margin increase will be in effect for. In the past, is it typically for 1 day, or has it lasted weeks?

AMP are doubling their margins too.

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Ninjatrader is back to regular margins. I think the Market Profile looks very funny. Sadly it doesn't show the immediately -7% limit down on the cash open.


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You will find that most FCMs (including us) are/have been operating with higher margins this week. However, we're back to regular day trade margins today.

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