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Know the basics of trading first. Reading a chart on different time frames. What does the day look like. New week high maybe new lows. Know basic possible support or resistance levels. If you get right into Jigsaw it will be hard to understand. Paper trade a lot. Pretend like its your real money and see how you feel when the drawdown say 100 or more. Once you understand how the market moves to all this then look at jigsaw and other programs to help you


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Hi guys,

This is my first post here and I'm quite the novice within trading. I'm looking to start trading the ES on the Jigsaw platform, but for the moment I can't afford to buy the software just yet. So I'm looking for alternative solutions to learn/watch order flow.

I've watched a lot of webinars and videos from Peter Davies and John Grady. I wanna take that knowledge and put it into practice as much as I can.

So I'm looking for screen-recording videos of the ES, that last for more than just a trade. I basically want to be able to watch the market, without being disturbed by slides in a webinar or without interruption. Slow as volatile.

Do any of you know of such videos out there? I'm having a hard time finding such recordings on Youtube. Appreciate any help. Hope I made it clear what I'm looking for

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Dennis


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Ill give you some priceless advice, don't spend a dime on order flow software. If you are going to buy NinjaTrader you will get all the volume and order flow tools you will ever need.
I have nothing against Jigsaw or Market Delta etc...its just not necessary at this point, now that NT8 offers robust tools. Other than that you need to spend hours per day as often as possible to get a feel for the market. No indicator will shortcut this step. Best of luck in your trading journey

Thanks for your input!

Why would NT8 be a better alternative than jigsaw? Isn't it more expensive and "just" another way of reading the order book? I mean, don't I basically pay for more things on NT8, that I'm not interested in?

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Know the basics of trading first. Reading a chart on different time frames. What does the day look like. New week high maybe new lows. Know basic possible support or resistance levels. If you get right into Jigsaw it will be hard to understand. Paper trade a lot. Pretend like its your real money and see how you feel when the drawdown say 100 or more. Once you understand how the market moves to all this then look at jigsaw and other programs to help you

Thanks for that!

However, I dont agree on being able to learn charts first necessarily. Ive already spent time on that, but chart-patterns are based on information coming from the DOM, which means I might as well look at the data from jigsaw. I'm interested in scalping, which means a chart will be somewhat useless for me.

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Why would NT8 be a better alternative than jigsaw? Isn't it more expensive and "just" another way of reading the order book? I mean, don't I basically pay for more things on NT8, that I'm not interested in?

Exactly. If you're interested in DOM trading, from watching Jigsaw and No BS videos, then use that tool. You are with Tradovate so you can use Jigsaw daytradr pulling data from the Tradovate platform. Needing to change broker to Ninjatrader for a less good DOM, needing to buy a licence for the orderflow tools, and potentially higher commissions, doesn't make sense.
Every journal here has people using different tools/indicators/software. Choose what makes sense to you then start watching your markets and give it a fair go, without getting distracted by other stuff. Good luck

You do not win as a trader, you just get to play again the next day. If that game doesn’t appeal to you then you should not trade. Gary Norden
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Exactly. If you're interested in DOM trading, from watching Jigsaw and No BS videos, then use that tool. You are with Tradovate so you can use Jigsaw daytradr pulling data from the Tradovate platform. Needing to change broker to Ninjatrader for a less good DOM, needing to buy a licence for the orderflow tools, and potentially higher commissions, doesn't make sense.
Every journal here has people using different tools/indicators/software. Choose what makes sense to you then start watching your markets and give it a fair go, without getting distracted by other stuff. Good luck

Thanks man!

That's what I mean. I see you're using jigsaw as well? Which broker are you with?

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I trade using the jigsaw tools and stream every session. My focus is on treasuries, but I have the ES on there too. That gives you about a year of video to watch. Don't forget that you can watch things on youtube in 2x speed with ctrl+>.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/speculatorseth[/yt]

If you are interested in trading largely off the dom then Jigsaw is definitely what you want. The DOM in NT8 is just awful. Many traders I speak with also like SierraCharts.

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Tradovate too, though currently sim trading and working on few ideas.

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Matthew, if you're trading the ES and are up for it, I would love to bounce ideas, feedback and general conversation with you on Skype or something.

Would love to expand my network of people who are somewhat going through the same as me

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I trade using the jigsaw tools and stream every session. My focus is on treasuries, but I have the ES on there too. That gives you about a year of video to watch. Don't forget that you can watch things on youtube in 2x speed with ctrl+>.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/speculatorseth[/yt]

If you are interested in trading largely off the dom then Jigsaw is definitely what you want. The DOM in NT8 is just awful. Many traders I speak with also like SierraCharts.

Hey I've actually hung out in your chat a few times SpeculatorSeth! I didn't know you were also on futures.io. I'd watch more of your channel but I don't trade treasuries. From what I saw I think you place good trades and your analysis was spot-on. Wish someone like you were streaming CL or ES or some faster moving future.

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Hey I've actually hung out in your chat a few times SpeculatorSeth! I didn't know you were also on futures.io. I'd watch more of your channel but I don't trade treasuries. From what I saw I think you place good trades and your analysis was spot-on. Wish someone like you were streaming CL or ES or some faster moving future.

Yeah I'll probably be sticking to treasuries for the long haul too, but I always have ES up there on screen. So if you're just looking to see the order flow replay it should be sufficient.

Am starting to take a few trades in MES.

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