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Hi, can I use this skills with Futures?

yep i use them everyday and have a few binders full of info, some of the guys in the room use to trades futures i dont know about now.


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 tpredictor 
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Start with why. If you are tired of trying to learn strategies, stay on top of market, etc then perhaps ask whether or not it is still something you want to do? Yes, you say you love trading. What is it about trading that you love? Perhaps, you used to love trading but things have changed.

There is an idea of constant progression in trading that is promoted that I question. I like to think of success as a function of skill/edge, psychology, and resources (time/money). What is the difference in skill and edge? Skill or expertise is a generalization. Edge is a specialization.

Regarding generalization, the best way to apply generalization is by trading with less leverage. This is difficult for most of us. The best way to apply specialization is to know your setup, trade selectively, and have a quantified edge. There is a middle ground where one can trade opportunistically.

I suggest learning to develop the ability to backtest your own strategies and also work on identifying what you love about markets and try to enhance that in your trading. Perhaps, instead of working on learning to trade, perhaps focus on learning your market. Regarding replay, I would recommend you focus instead on practicing in real-time on the simulator and use replay as a tool.



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Hi, yea sorry for asking this but I am very tire searching to learn strategies, DTA wants 5k, a lot of scams, book in kindle. I am not looking for a miracle winning strategy, I understand risk factors and all the basic of futures, ticks., most of the indicators. I earn some money on ninjatrader replay market, but I am not constant, I end up losing money(100-200) and pay commission. I just need a base so I can build my style. I have a full license of Ninjatrader, elite membership here. Any recommendation, books, video, PDF. I am about to retire from the army after 20 years and I am 36, I have a couple injuries so I can't do heavy work and I love trading. I appreciate the help.


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few pointers...

Watch the stocks that make up most of these indexes to trade the index futures. AAPL, AMZN, GOOGL, FB, etc for NQ, AAPL, MSFT, BA, GS, etc for YM...

Dont just watch the indicators. Feel the market. Be in the moment. Always expect the unexpected. Dont be afraid to go against the move. Most knee-jerk moves will reverse.

Forget your entry price. Exit based on what you see and feel and not based on $ levels.

And dont just agree with everyone including me . Be your own judge.

One last thing - dont let others influence you - dont watch nightly videos from so called 'know it all's. You will get unconsiously biased.

Must mention - do not drink alcohol the night prior to a trading day. Trust me! you will notice a big difference in your performance.

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Well spend 10,000 hours watching a trading screen and you will have spent 10,000 hours. Spend some time with those who can explain what is going on and you will get an education.

Free and fast.
From a market maker's point of view, about 5 minutes recap of the prior day and overnight plus comments about how the prior day plan had zero relationships to reality (or was right on) Futurestrader71 9 AM youtube session.
Abbreviated in print version of the same thing Dionysian Toast market prep right here in the journals.
A 20 to 30-minute bar by bar pointing out the good and the risky shorts and longs in the ES from a scalper's point of view is Mack at PriceActionTradingSystem.com on youtube four evenings a week.

I am sure there are others as well but this crowd does not pose with a rented Lambo and a rented bikini model while bragging about what you will l; earn from them.

So turn off the TV and don't spend money on magic beans.

Also, it would be good, on a day when your head is clear and your emotions are smooth to find Dr. Van Tharp's free trader profile personality test. It is on his website somewhere. Standard stuff "what would you rather do..." but you get a computer scored answer matching your answers up to about 20 different "trading personality types" including a few where he says you don't have what it takes. Yes, lots of people don't think these things are any good but it is way better than your self-selection of a style that sounds good. If your mental tools don't match the job you are trying to do it isn't going to work. And if you get pointed to a style that fits you maybe it will be a good fit.


Thanks!! I really appreciate I will check on them. I think all resume in spend hour in the screen. I found lots of good stuff in the forum. Im working on a trading plan. Thanks again.

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Start with why. If you are tired of trying to learn strategies, stay on top of market, etc then perhaps ask whether or not it is still something you want to do? Yes, you say you love trading. What is it about trading that you love? Perhaps, you used to love trading but things have changed.

There is an idea of constant progression in trading that is promoted that I question. I like to think of success as a function of skill/edge, psychology, and resources (time/money). What is the difference in skill and edge? Skill or expertise is a generalization. Edge is a specialization.

Regarding generalization, the best way to apply generalization is by trading with less leverage. This is difficult for most of us. The best way to apply specialization is to know your setup, trade selectively, and have a quantified edge. There is a middle ground where one can trade opportunistically.

I suggest learning to develop the ability to backtest your own strategies and also work on identifying what you love about markets and try to enhance that in your trading. Perhaps, instead of working on learning to trade, perhaps focus on learning your market. Regarding replay, I would recommend you focus instead on practicing in real-time on the simulator and use replay as a tool.

Hi, well I really still love trading, I fascinated about technical analysis, I know I can be good at it, what I am tired of is searching for a guide, a base education were I can start, really understand the market, understand the numbers. I am finding a lot in this forum especially in the webinars and NT webinars, free pdf and I only paid for PAL price action.

I can't do live real-time due to my job, ARMY internet suck and they won't allow it, I send 2 to 3 hours every day on market replay and 1-hour reading or video. I can't remember last time I watch Netflix I am very deep on this I am looky my wife understands my goals and support me. I am really thankful for your advice and time, I will look into tools and how the market works to develop my trading plan and strategy.

Thanks!!

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few pointers...

Watch the stocks that make up most of these indexes to trade the index futures. AAPL, AMZN, GOOGL, FB, etc for NQ, AAPL, MSFT, BA, GS, etc for YM...

Dont just watch the indicators. Feel the market. Be in the moment. Always expect the unexpected. Dont be afraid to go against the move. Most knee-jerk moves will reverse.

Forget your entry price. Exit based on what you see and feel and not based on $ levels.

And dont just agree with everyone including me . Be your own judge.

One last thing - dont let others influence you - dont watch nightly videos from so called 'know it all's. You will get unconsiously biased.

Must mention - do not drink alcohol the night prior to a trading day. Trust me! you will notice a big difference in your performance.

Thanks, Skidboot, I am realizing that indicators are just for reference and confirmation to make a desition. Any particular reason to watch the stock in indexes? Thanks!!

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If I could start over, I would do the Adam Grimes course. It's free. It's comprehensive. And it will give you a solid base to build your own style.

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I would take up the free month of Al's trading room that comes with the FIO Elite membership. I used to screen shot the charts from the end of the recording, then go back to the start of the recording, hit play, then take notes as he speaks. Between his course and month of trading room that is all one really needs to get his material, in other words, investing in the books probably costs more than the time it takes to get through them. Good luck, have fun, and think methodically!

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If I could start over, I would do the Adam Grimes course. It's free. It's comprehensive. And it will give you a solid base to build your own style.

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Wow amazing Thanks!! looks great, lot stuff to absorb but I will doit.

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Simple reason, these stocks make up those indexes and index futures move based on what these stocks do.

Here is an old video sample by John Carter - see how he uses stocks and some of the market internals to trade the futures. (I am in no way endorsing his trading methods or indicators or his trading room. In my opionion, none of his methods work for others to make money consistently. So use this just as a reference.)





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Thanks, Skidboot, I am realizing that indicators are just for reference and confirmation to make a desition. Any particular reason to watch the stock in indexes? Thanks!!


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