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The S&P Chronicles - An Amalgamation of Wyckoff, VSA and Price Action

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After reading many a forum about the trials and tribulations of a day trader (usually ending in disaster.) I wanted a thread that gives an insight into one mans process and showcase that it is indeed possible to make money from the markets. This is my approach to the markets, it may or may not help others; after all one mans junk is another mans treasure.

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Market produced a readable apex, combined with decent trade management provided a fruitful day and an early finish.

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Wyckoff principles at play into todays action:

Change of Behaviour (COB)
New Momentum Highs
Spring
Shortening of the Thrust (SOT)

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Banked profits, early day, long weekend. Have a great weekend all.

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Your reading skills are near perfect. I hope it is not hindsight trading or pure fiction.

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Thank you for the kind words.

My chart reading skills are constantly evolving, I will forever be a student of the markets.

The S&P Chronicles have been produced for my own benefit, I literally have 1000's. I use them for development purposes - there is an additional sheet that highlights my weaknesses and strengths that I do not share. The last few days the S&P has been a little volatile and produced trend days ( a strength of mine). When the market contracts and the average true range tightens, my trading style changes (still applying the same techniques) my stops get hit much more frequently and only take 4- 6 points a day, which no doubt if you follow this thread will happen not too far in the distant future.

The genuine purpose of this thread is to share my approach and my reality of the markets and this is how I trade. It may or may not help others, that's down to the individual. All systems and methods from my experience work, whats important is that the trader uses the right method that suits their own psychological make up, this is where the majority of retail traders fail.

 
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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play into today's action:

Hyperdermics (parabolic)
Mini climax (on a 5 min chart)
VSA - no demand setup

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Spring
Upthrust
VSA no demand setup
VSA testing (no supply)
Swell in volume (usually indicates a change in trend - contextually dependent)

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@Feibel this is very high quality and educational analysis you're putting out. I look forward to reading more of your insights regarding Wyckoff and VSA principles

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@Feibel this is very high quality and educational analysis you're putting out. I look forward to reading more of your insights regarding Wyckoff and VSA principles

Appreciate the kind words. I'm glad its of use for others than just myself

 
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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Spring
Bearish change of behaviour
Bullish change of behaviour
No demand setup
A true sign of strength bar

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@Feibel

Must admit, i am impressed by your reading skills and maybe more so by your capacity to formulate a narrative that is interesting to follow. Gee! i am learning new things from your chronicles something which has not happened to me since a long time. I mostly use volume profiles and S/R, i know a bit of Wyckoff but found it a bit esoteric.

Did you learn the Wyckoff stuff by your own or you were mentored by someone?

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Wyckoff and Advanced Price Action at play in today's action:

Bullish change of behaviour
Shortening of the thrust
Anomaly
Stop hunting

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Fakeout (Fake breakout)
Bearish COB (change of behaviour)
No demand setup
Rally back to ice - Wyckoff /Bob Evans concept (1st test of broken support)
Upthrust

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Bearish COB (change of behaviour)

When you have time, can you define what do you look for to identify a change of behavior? Is it just when the last swing hi/lo is broken in the opposite direction of the current trend on your entry timeframe? Do you also consider volume in your assessment of a COB?

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When you have time, can you define what do you look for to identify a change of behavior? Is it just when the last swing hi/lo is broken in the opposite direction of the current trend on your entry timeframe? Do you also consider volume in your assessment of a COB?

Excellent question.

Wyckoff used to analyse the market in terms of buying and selling waves: WHEN THE BUYING WAVES BEGIN TO SHORTEN IN LENGTH AND DURATION/VOLUME AND THE SELLING WAVES BEGIN TO INCREASE IN LENGTH AND VOLUME, YOU KNOW THE MARKET IS POISED TO GO LOWER - (vice versa)

This would be a change of behaviour. When we have a COB we would be looking for a LOWER HIGH to be made and apply short set ups, good places are usually the structure of the market (resistance etc), confluences. We need to analyse a COB all the time as it unfolds, what further information can you obtain? Is it selling of high quality (decent volume and spreads) Does it break the demand line in an uptrend, does it break a support level? As you said do we break the last swing high? (this doesn't have to occur, unfortunatley using the Wyckoff, VSA method there are no concrete rules) On occasion we can drift sideways, slightly heading south, the volume maybe light and price action poor. BUT the wave down it produced could be 3x the size of any up wave and 5x the size of any downwave, this would also count as a COB using the duration aspect. Once you have a potential COB whats important is to analyse the proceeding rally, this is the key - it must show weakness, buying of poor quality.
After time and practice the COB will become clear, a COB is never 100% the same, yet the DNA is approx 80%, a slight alteration, a different flavour if you will.

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Wyckoff and VSA principles in today's action:

Shortening of the thrust
Upthrust in previous area of supply
VSA testing - high volume areas

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Wyckoff principles in today's action:

Accumulation
Absorption
Springs x 2
Shortening of the thrust

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Today's trading showcases pure Wyckoff at its best. Most important edition of the S&P Chronicles to date

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Wyckoff principles in today's action:

Accumulation
Absorption
Springs x 2
Shortening of the thrust

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Today's trading showcases pure Wyckoff at its best. Most important edition of the S&P Chronicles to date

Hi,

Thanks again for your last chronicle. I was wondering as i am used to the terminology associated with the auction theory if the accumulation/distribution you are talking about is just another name for identifying a period where price is just in a state of balance. Whether price will break above or below is unknown until it happens. To me, the market has just two phases/states, balance or out of balance, contraction or expansion.

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Wyckoff principles in today's action:

Accumulation
Absorption
Springs x 2
Shortening of the thrust

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Today's trading showcases pure Wyckoff at its best. Most important edition of the S&P Chronicles to date

Damn @Feibel!...Damn.

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Wyckoff principles in today's action:

Accumulation
Absorption
Springs x 2
Shortening of the thrust

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Today's trading showcases pure Wyckoff at its best. Most important edition of the S&P Chronicles to date

@Feibel your analysis is outstanding. I have only just stumbled onto this thread and boy am I glad I found it!
How long have you been trading for?

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Wyckoff and VSA principles in today's action:

Shortening of the thrust
Upthrust in previous area of supply
VSA testing - high volume areas

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Hi Feibel I think this is a crucial concept to understand and Im hoping that you can explain what you mean by this:


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If bar D was a test, it failed as it drew out high volume. I would expect some testing action of bar A, high
volume areas like to be tested by the well funded traders, if indeed they want higher prices, supply has to eradicated and
tested.

Bars A (with large volume) and D push down to test demand but I dont understand how that eliminates supply?

The way I see it is bar A:
1. triggers early short players.
2. Activates long stops.
Wont this have the effect of creating supply?

The way Ive always thought about it is that the funded players are creating liquidity to buy into so that they can get into the market more gracefully without too much notice. So:
send a spike down, traps shorts, trigger stops, create top heavy supply and buy into it. But what you are saying goes against my (very limited) understanding and Id really appreciate your thoughts on it.

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Hi Feibel I think this is a crucial concept to understand and Im hoping that you can explain what you mean by this:



Bars A (with large volume) and D push down to test demand but I dont understand how that eliminates supply?

The way I see it is bar A:
1. triggers early short players.
2. Activates long stops.
Wont this have the effect of creating supply?

The way Ive always thought about it is that the funded players are creating liquidity to buy into so that they can get into the market more gracefully without too much notice. So:
send a spike down, traps shorts, trigger stops, create top heavy supply and buy into it. But what you are saying goes against my (very limited) understanding and Id really appreciate your thoughts on it.

Thank you

Excellent question:

Bar A - is climatic in nature, breaks the channel becomes way oversold etc. It closes firm so we know buyers were present. This bar breaks a support level - we have momentum traders, support and resistance traders, this action induces sellers to become active, which is excellent news for the well funded/professionals. They need supply so they can match
their orders. If for example they had an inventory of 50k contracts to fill, they need sellers to emerge to fulfil their quota.
BUT as we can see bar A had a great deal of volume, before mark up they need to be 100% sure that supply has been eradicated. Bar D is left to the retail market, the professionals have withdrawn any activity. Bar D in an ideal world would have a very small spread, closing on its lows with very low volume. Here we have the opposite, spread is decent and volume has INCREASED, this tells the professionals that supply is in the market. This would be a failed test. Hence we need more testing at lower prices. Bar D doesn't eradicate supply, its testing for supply, which failed as supply was present.

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Thank you for posting such a detailed journal thread. I try to trade a similar method with s/r trading and wyckoff spring / upthrusts as entry signals. I have a question about your charting method for your ES chart. Are you using a continuous regular chart or a back adjusted chart? I am fairly new to futures and I am just getting used to the roll over process. I am curious if you look at absolute price levels and if you back adjust.

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Thank you for posting such a detailed journal thread. I try to trade a similar method with s/r trading and wyckoff spring / upthrusts as entry signals. I have a question about your charting method for your ES chart. Are you using a continuous regular chart or a back adjusted chart? I am fairly new to futures and I am just getting used to the roll over process. I am curious if you look at absolute price levels and if you back adjust.

Appreciate the kind words

From the Chronicles, as you know I like to keep things as simple as possible. Nothing clever or fancy, for that reason I use a regular continuous contract.

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Wyckoff and VSA principles in today's action:

Hidden upthrust
VSA - 2 x No demand setups
Stopping volume

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Wyckoff principles in today's action:

Upthrust (textbook)
Springs x 2
Wyckoff governing principle - Effort vs Result
Change of behaviour
Structural confluences
Buying and selling waves

and a little Trading Psychology

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Wyckoff and VSA principles in today's action:

VSA - no supply setup
First pullback setup
Shortening of the thrust

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Wyckoff and VSA principles in today's action:
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Fantastic trading this week. I am learning something reading your PDFs.

I have a question regarding the last two days (Thursday-Friday) where on both days you identified a no supply test after a run to the downside.

My question is how do you differenciate between a pullback with declining volume and concludes it is good for continuation of the trend or no it is just a test of supply in a downtrend which has become weak and so i expect this pullback to be a trap for those who wishes the trend will keep going?



On this example below which occured Friday, we have a pullback in the middle near the letter D that kept going down but to me it has the same look as the one you have described as beeing a test of supply. It seems to me it is easy to be wrong on a bar per bar basis.

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@trendisyourfriend

Excellent question:

With the Wyckoff and VSA method the trader gains his edge by reading the whole chart. We focus to the left of the screen and work our way to the right. Looking back through the chronicles I initiate a trade by building a picture of strength or weakness. The bars have to be contextually correct (ie. in the right conditions)

With tests, there must be one vital piece of information. We have to come from IMMEDIATE strength/ a sign of strength.
Example from Thursdays action:
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Supply to B - (weaknesss)

Rally to A - price action fairly strong closing firm with decent spreads (strength) ,yet volume declining (weakness)

Bar A - upthrust, (weakness)

The reaction from A - looking deep into the first 3 bars, volume has declined (strength), the closes are off the lows neither strength or weakness (merely noted) the market is finding it hard to push down. Compare the nature of the selling pressure here to that of B - worlds apart.

The following bar increases in volume closes weak, right at support (weakness)

Bar C - dips under finds no further supply, reverses to close firm wiping out most of the previous bar. Due to this action we KNOW that buying must of have occurred due to the high volume from the previous bar. This is a spring/2 bar reversal at support, we're unable to test the demand line from our trend channel (strength) buyers are being more aggressive. This is super strength, (immediate strength), many Wyckoff traders would pull the trigger here at the close of C
Sellers had ample opportunity for lower prices, did not capitalise

Bar D -test

Bar E - the bears are unhappy, its the bulls that have gained the info here. Its not that demand is weak, we have demand directly behind us, its that supply is weak. Where have the sellers gone from B and the pullback to C?
I prefer the test at E as we actually dip into the spring bar, testing for supply.
With a test we need an immediate response, this confirms our analysis 100%. Mark up has begun. Here we get a picture perfect response - great price action, (decent spread and increase in volume) Hold the trade, looks like we have found the days low.

A test should have lower volume than the previous 2 bars, small narrow spread and come from immediate strength (there are various VSA test variations. For my trading I use this test as its most useful for my style)

Question 2 - I can see your thought process. For myself there are not enough signs of strength as yet. Buying at A and C. Looking at the bar itself (near D) the spread is almost the same size as C and contextually its in in the wrong place. (background conditions) - The closes are rounding over, does this make sense? yes (supply to the left). This action tells me the market is coming down. Huge effort at E, we would expect downside progress yet the following we reverse to close back above support. 2 bar reversal/spring, label this as you will, it's unimportant, the key is to understand the process. Then bar G a beautiful little test, instant buy. Immediate strength behind us

A spring bar for example anywhere else but at support is just another bar, it has to be used in the correct conditions for the bar in question to have meaning

This process takes time and effort. It's of benefit to go through the charts, build a story of strength or weakness. Look for immediate strength then look for test bars. Used on a daily time frame, this trade is very powerful. Test bars are left for the whole day with no professional involvement, it gives horrible flat trading for the intraday, BUT of huge significance to the large operators. Thinking in multiple time frames is a key to fully understanding the cyclical nature of the markets.

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@Feibel

Thanks for the detailed answer. I have never been a big fan of bar per bar reading as i considered it a bit myopic but i find your examples quite refreshing. It's interesting how you can read all of the clues about supply/demand along with strength and weakness from a simple 5 min. chart. If i compare it to other complex frameworks (Volume profile, VWAP, Bookmap, Tape reading, name it). You seem to have adopted the simplicity model in your analysis.

Do you take into consideration the overnight session as well as the high/low of the prior RTH session or just the daily bar only? ANd what about the GAP between RTH sessions? Does it matter to you?

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@Feibel

Thanks for the detailed answer. I have never been a big fan of bar per bar reading as i considered it a bit myopic but i find your examples quite refreshing. It's interesting how you can read all of the clues about supply/demand along with strength and weakness from a simple 5 min. chart. If i compare it to other complex frameworks (Volume profile, VWAP, Bookmap, Tape reading, name it). You seem to have adopted the simplicity model in your analysis.

Do you take into consideration the overnight session as well as the high/low of the prior RTH session or just the daily bar only? ANd what about the GAP between RTH sessions? Does it matter to you?

Throughout my trading career I have adopted a policy that simplicity is best. This works most favourable for my trading style and psychological make up. The key, or of great importance is that I BELIEVE in the method and my ability to execute, there is no doubt in my mind. If I continue to develop, work on my weaknesses, day in, day out, to keep on pushing and growing I will succeed (not comparing to others, but becoming the best version of myself within the market place). This was the main attraction that drew me to this method, there is no need for additional info. Of course over the years we develop our own nuances and gain further insights - this is to be expected through natural growth

Overnight data is important from my perspective as there is enough trading these days (due to the advancement of electronic trading) that provide good levels of support and resistance, I often take positions during the European session.
If one studies the Asian, European and US sessions, there are distinct correlations that can help prepare for the day ahead

Gaps in my opinion are nothing more than an imbalance between demand and supply - if we gap open, I would simply draw the tail from the previous close and analyse as normal.

Hope this helps,

 
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Wyckoff principles at play in today's action:

Spring
Upthrust
Imbalance between demand and supply (Gap)

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@Feibel

One thing i noticed on a 5min chart after the first and half hour of trading reading vertical volume on a bar per bar basis is difficult as the difference between each bar seems insignificant except when you get a spike on an uptrust or a spring. I was looking at your first entry and was wondering how you manage to always be able to find the perfect entry without adverse excursion. What's your trick?

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@Feibel

One thing i noticed on a 5min chart after the first and half hour of trading reading vertical volume on a bar per bar basis is difficult as the difference between each bar seems insignificant except when you get a spike on an upthrust or a spring. I was looking at your first entry and was wondering how you manage to always be able to find the perfect entry without adverse excursion. What's your trick?

Good question:

A relatively simple answer 1000's of hours of chart experience. The trade was relatively simple.
If we make our story:

Gap Up (major strength)
Holding a level of support during overnight (strength)
Breaking the all time highs with clean price action (major strength)
A huge wave up (major strength)

When the market is this strong we need to be aggressive in nature and find an excuse if you will to jump onboard a weak pullback.

The first bar of weakness was to be expected, the average true range was in play and a psychological number of 2450.00. NOTE - the reaction, there was no supply pressure (volume light, spreads narrow etc) . Compare the upwaves to the downwaves it becomes crystal clear whose in control. We had a level of support in play and only one bar closed under, which was immediately reversed. Combined with the background conditions (of strength) this was our opportunity. Ideally the play is to break the last swing high. This was optimistic due to the average true range (via daily) soon as we see the upthrust (major weakness) exit and reverse.

When we have demand in complete control, its supply that needs to prove itself. We can continue to grind up with low volume. Granted this kind of price is not ideal, but as traders we need to be aware and adapt to different market conditions.

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Good question:

A relatively simple answer 1000's of hours of chart experience. The trade was relatively simple.
If we make our story:

Gap Up (major strength)
Holding a level of support during overnight (strength)
Breaking the all time highs with clean price action (major strength)
A huge wave up (major strength)

When the market is this strong we need to be aggressive in nature and find an excuse if you will to jump onboard a weak pullback.

The first bar of weakness was to be expected, the average true range was in play and a psychological number of 2450.00. NOTE - the reaction, there was no supply pressure (volume light, spreads narrow etc) . Compare the upwaves to the downwaves it becomes crystal clear whose in control. We had a level of support in play and only one bar closed under, which was immediately reversed. Combined with the background conditions (of strength) this was our opportunity. Ideally the play is to break the last swing high. This was optimistic due to the average true range (via daily) soon as we see the upthrust (major weakness) exit and reverse.

When we have demand in complete control, its supply that needs to prove itself. We can continue to grind up with low volume. Granted this kind of price is not ideal, but as traders we need to be aware and adapt to different market conditions.

Hope this gives some clarity,

Hi @Feibel

Could you explain why the price action at 16:05, 16:10 on your chart would not have also qualified for a long entry?

Thanks in advance

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Hi @Feibel

Could you explain why the price action at 16:05, 16:10 on your chart would not have also qualified for a long entry?

Thanks in advance

That's exactly the spot i had in mind. This was the first entry point, he took the second entry. That's what i meant by perfect entry. Unless it is in your plan to always take the second entry.

 
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@Sazon

Excellent observation

The bar in question is a valid entry and with a mere 2.5 point stop underneath support would have been a successful trade. For myself the weakness from bar B was overt, it has the second highest volume on the chart (at that time) spread is fairly large. We had printed 6 bars after B and I was unsure ( I had limit order out and cancelled, not 100% convinced) as the market unfolded another 6 bars and we tried for lower prices on lower volume with a bob back up to close at support was the confirmation I needed. This method is discretionary and I'm sure many traders would of entered at 16:05, if bar B's volume was a 1/3 less (there was a great deal of selling in this bar) I may of entered earlier. Good question

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Hi @Feibel,
What made you hold for more on your 2nd entry from F? What was the indication that there was more to come?
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Hi @Feibel,
What made you hold for more on your 2nd entry from F? What was the indication that there was more to come?
Thank you.

Main reason the higher time frame being the 15m.

The cluster of closes shows an inability for higher prices for 45mins, and of course we up thrust. As react volume increases which is healthy for our short. From a 15m time frame perspective we want to hold this trade

Via the 5m we have the highest volume for 3 hours (relative to local bars this is 2 to 3 times the size) The upthrust itself, has much better price action, closes weak on it's lows under the previous close etc. On the way down we break the demand line which has held for 2.5 hours. The bar in question does indeed bob back up with a pop in volume. Does this one bar negate all the negativity we've seen? My target first target was D then C, these are better support levels in my opinion.

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Main reason the higher time frame being the 15m.

The cluster of closes shows an inability for higher prices for 45mins, and of course we up thrust. As react volume increases which is healthy for our short. From a 15m time frame perspective we want to hold this trade

Via the 5m we have the highest volume for 3 hours (relative to local bars this is 2 to 3 times the size) The upthrust itself, has much better price action, closes weak on it's lows under the previous close etc. On the way down we break the demand line which has held for 2.5 hours. The bar in question does indeed bob back up with a pop in volume. Does this one bar negate all the negativity we've seen? My target first target was D then C, these are better support levels in my opinion.

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About the image attached (15min chart) after the bar that shows the highest volume during the retracement (after the second uptrust) we have an inside bar. In this case, do you consider it a test of supply or a test of demand? If you can talk a little bit more what conditions determine if we have a test of demand or supply. Not sure but from your past examples, i might have concluded we have a test of supply and this is a no supply condition given volume was low.

Also, as you are using Ninja, can you turn the trade markers "on" for your entry/exit?

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About the image attached (15min chart) after the bar that shows the highest volume during the retracement (after the second uptrust) we have an inside bar. In this case, do you consider it a test of supply or a test of demand? If you can talk a little bit more what conditions determine if we have a test of demand or supply. Not sure but from your past examples, i might have concluded we have a test of supply and this is a no supply condition given volume was low.

Also, as you are using Ninja, can you turn the trade markers "on" for your entry/exit?

Good question

No it doesn't meet the criteria for a test, the spread and volume are too high. We don't come from immediate strength or weakness. Contextually incorrect. The bar in question is genuinely trying to push up, it dips under the previous close reverses to close firm. We note, that it was unable to test and the break the highs, the buying was being capped.

Unfortunately @trendisyourfriend, the art of testing and the current conditions along with examples would take along time to go through. The basics I have given in a previous S&P chronicle.

Due to company restrictions I am unable to turn on trade markers, however, going forward I would like to produce a swing based Chronicle using my personal account. It would be a good process to go through stock selection (using pure Wyckoff) with a variety of instruments; commodities, currencies and stocks.

 
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Good question

No it doesn't meet the criteria for a test, the spread and volume are too high. ...

What about this bar (15 min chart from Yesterday)?


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@trendisyourfriend - I would interpret this as no demand in a previous area of supply. Small narrow spread, no volume unable to rally, does this makes sense? yes look to the left, we have supply. With this method the bars have to be used in context. Demand is in control (overall) in the immediate its supply that has the reigns from the upthrust, and as we revisit this area, wheres the demand that we saw previously? A no demand in a previous area of supply is an excellent set up

Good question

 
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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Upthrust setup
VSA no supply set up (counter trend)
Stopping volume
Oversold confluences

and a price action aberration

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play into today's action:

Apex (fake break, hidden selling)
Buying climax
Stopping volume
Advanced Wyckoff/Bob Evans - spring board
Daily COB (change of behaviour)

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play into today's action:

Apex (fake break, hidden selling)
Buying climax
Stopping volume
Advanced Wyckoff/Bob Evans - spring board
Daily COB (change of behaviour)

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In your last chronicle you wrote something which captured my interest when you wrote: "Bar D - this bar is also climatic, it doesn't make sense contextually."

However, using VWAP as a measure of value we can see this level where we bounced with strength occured at the middle of the prior week value area. Given the overall strength of the bulls since the presidential election, expecting a reaction at the prior week VWAP makes sense. See this picture with notes...


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@trendisyourfriend - the bar in question was using relative contextual properties, the last 6 bars or so ( the sell off before hand) from my perspective this was suspect behaviour, odd, out of place - like a polar bear in the desert.

Using VWAP and other indicators you have more or less drawn the same conclusion, just different routes, it's fascinating how a 100 traders can draw the same conclusions from displaying the info in a different way. Personally I like the simplicity of volume and price action. I know a great trader who uses just bars, no volume or trend lines. ( I would suggest if you can to try and practice with just bars, improves chart reading skills considerably, then adding volume is a bonus)

I place no bearing on fundamental analysis, (unless for investment purposes, holding for 3 years +), it clouds judgement and has an unfavourable affect the subconscious, we hold biases whether we are aware or not. No news, no fundamentals. Although I have one trade set up using the weekly oil inventory reports on Wednesdays, as its very fruitful and the quarterly earnings reports for obvious reasons.

Good chart, thanks for sharing

 
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Hi @Feibel,

I appreciate your thread. I have a question regarding how you take your entries. It looks like you like to enter on the close of a bar that is setting up for you. If that is correct, do you usually enter a limit order at that bar's close or just enter at the market. I have been spotting some upthrust/springs and no demand/no supply setups and have found that the market will often shoot away at the close of the bar so that a limit order will often not get filled, but if I enter a market order, I will usually get filled 1 tick above the closing price of the bar. What do you usually do?

Thanks,

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Wyckoff principles at play in today's action:

Apex setup (springboard, hinge)
VSA individual bar analysis
Potential signs of a trend reversal

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Spring setup
VSA - No demand set up
Potential 2 bar reversal
Shortening of the thrust
Mini climax (5m timeframe)

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Just finished reading all of your posts. Great commentary! A clear view through someone else's lens is a wonderful way to expand your own view of the market. Thanks!

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Great Wyckoff VSA thread! Thanks the smart money' view from Feibel !


These are my tow cents

SOT
COB/EODM
SOW on RHS
Broke ICE
No Demand Rally


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Just finished reading all of your posts. Great commentary! A clear view through someone else's lens is a wonderful way to expand your own view of the market. Thanks!

Appreciate the feedback, I am genuinely pleased that the Chronicles can provide an alternative insight into the markets.

 
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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Wyckoff distribution?
Wyckoff irregular price action (BTI)
Spring setup
Clustering of closes
Effort vs. Result
Hidden buying

and an important price action configuration

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Quoting 
itís an anomaly and very difficult to read, especially as
we donít have a classic accumulation phase. Overall the last 3 bars we would read as weakness as
upside progress was very minimal. On the other hand we could argue that the buyers are absorbing
supply (hidden buying)

The DOM can be a very useful tool in this instance as it will reveal exactly whats going on. Specifically looking at individual bid or ask traded volume. If you are quick enough you can very accurately pick the turns. Used in conjunction with VSA on smaller time frames it can be a powerful combination.

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@Feibel

I have a question about one of the chart in your last chronicle...

See the circle in Red:


Price pulled back and you identify it as AR (Automatic rally). I thought a rally was when price was going up. Why is it considered a rally when in reality it is just a small pull back? Also, at which point were you able to identify it as an AR? Is it when it broke below it many bars later? My point is how useful is this info in your decision making specially when you can't tell if price will keep going up or not at this point in time?

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@Feibel

I have a question about one of the chart in your last chronicle...

See the circle in Red:


Price pulled back and you identify it as AR (Automatic rally). I thought a rally was when price was going up. Why is it considered a rally when in reality it is just a small pull back? Also, at which point were you able to identify it as an AR? Is it when it broke below it many bars later? My point is how useful is this info in your decision making specially when you can't tell if price will keep going up or not at this point in time?

Good question - I'm sure many are thinking are the same. This is literally how Wyckoff would describe distribution from the early 1900's and uses the term ''automatic rally'' for both phases (Accumulation and Distribution)

The thinking behind this, if I remember correctly is that when the market has a buying or selling climax, its very nature is extremely aggressive chunking at price with large orders, this action creates a vacuum within the market - hence the automatic rally, (an imbalance between demand and supply)

The AR phase we do not concern ourselves with, it's the process of distribution/accumulation which is key, they all have a slight variation and some are easier to read than others. Usually around the secondary tests our ears perk up, it depends on ones chart reading skills and the ability to identify (accumulation/distribution)

Hands down the safest, best trades from the Wyckoff playbook is the rally back to ice or the back up to the edge of creek, (80% of my swing trading portfolio), when we have an aberration like the huge swell in volume back to ice, we simply back off.

Saying that if we recognise accumulation or distribution on a higher time frame (daily), we can take advantage of the phases and trade intraday. We know specific targets and levels in advance which helps the trading process.

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

VSA shakeout
VSA test set up (spring)
No demand set up
SOT
Change of Behaviour
Clustering of Closes

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Spring
2 bar bottom reversal (VSA)
Effort vs Result (great example)
Ease of movement
No supply

and excellent price action: trading trends to the upside

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...I wanted a thread that gives an insight into one mans process and showcase that it is indeed possible to make money from the markets. ...

So far, you have been damn good.

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Any chance of you doing a webinar @Feibel?
I can only find one on the subject of Wyckoff + VSA in the FIO webinar section.

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Wyckoff principles at play in today's action:

Waves
Supply Overcoming Demand
No demand setup (wave format)

and an Advanced price action/multiple time frame setup

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Any chance of you doing a webinar @Feibel?
I can only find one on the subject of Wyckoff + VSA in the FIO webinar section.

That's very kind to suggest. It's under serious consideration

Many thanks

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Wyckoff principles at play in today's action:

Spring (using multiple time frames)
Effort vs. Result
Waves
Accumulation

and instrument character

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Over the weekend i went through few of these journals in depth and gathering a few nuggets just as the one you mentioned today "if we reject either yesterday’s high or lows within the first hours trading, odds favor a reversal" valuable insights.

Thank you very much for sharing.

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Over the weekend i went through few of these journals in depth and gathering a few nuggets just as the one you mentioned today "if we reject either yesterdayís high or lows within the first hours trading, odds favor a reversal" valuable insights.

Thank you very much for sharing.

Sudhir

Appreciate the kind words;

I cannot take credit for that little nugget in particular as it was expressed from an old mentor. Most of the nuggets are extracted from various sources over the years and cherry picked to suit my style and methodology - I am pleased they are of use

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Great journal, very interesting take on vsa. Who were/are your mentors? Or what material have you studied? Thanks for the informative posts here.


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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Failed Upthrust
Apex (springboard set up)
Wave set up
Stopping volume

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Failed Upthrust
Apex (springboard set up)
Wave set up
Stopping volume

Hi, for your first entry Yesterday, you were not concerned by the crude Inventories which occured right at that time (1 min later i think)?

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Hi, for your first entry Yesterday, you were not concerned by the crude Inventories which occured right at that time (1 min later i think)?

In all honesty no - I am aware of other indices and oil (I had a core position in oil yesterday - when oil inventories change more than 5m barrels either way, we more than often (but not always) get a significant move
If the markets are out of sync (a divergence some say might say) like the other day; NASDAQ fell -1.1% and the S&P was flat at 0%, I'm looking for a reason to apply short positions, I'm a firm believer that price will lead the way.

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Variation of Wyckoff accumulation (5m chart)
Springs
Change of behaviour
Waves

and a logical price action setup

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@Feibel

What difference is there between selling climax and stopping volume? Also, is there such a thing as buying climax or you have another name for the opposite of selling climax? Also, Yesterday you identofied a chnage of behavior pointing the the volume on your tick chart. To be honest, i would need to use my imagination to some extent to conclude we had a change of behavior. When price tested 2421 area (prior swing low) price could have started a new wave down just as well.

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What difference is there between selling climax and stopping volume? Also, is there such a thing as buying climax or you have another name for the opposite of selling climax? Also, Yesterday you identofied a chnage of behavior pointing the the volume on your tick chart. To be honest, i would need to use my imagination to some extent to conclude we had a change of behavior. When price tested 2421 area (prior swing low) price could have started a new wave down just as well.

Good questions:

Selling climax is significantly more bullish than stopping volume. On a 5m chart it can be difficult to distinguish the two:

Stopping volume halts price, the close can be on the lows, middle, and the volume very high
Selling climax, highest volume on the chart, close should be on/or near the highs, we must come from a downtrend

Buying climax is used in the process of distribution

The change of behaviour MUST be used in context. Look deep into the nature of wave C, it has achieved a great deal. The total volume was 153k contracts, more than the previous down wave (147k), suggesting that indeed demand is in this market in a big way. We rally back over yesterdays low (extremely bullish) and back into the trend channel (bullish) If the market was weak and supply in control, this should never happen.

More importantly when we combine both the 5m and tick chart we know that we have a potential selling climax (extremely bullish) As we react to D we have a smaller down wave, with a spring at a confluence area (demand line from the channel and support). Via the 5m we spring - followed by 2 lovely little test bars. Combining all this info the market is telling us that supply is spent for the time being. As wave F prints with no supply we know for sure that supply has dried up. Thinking logically the large wave down has exhausted all the sellers as we have become way oversold

I understand your thinking about the testing at 2421, I too was looking for a short play BUT with all that volume behind us (demand) and what the wave achieves it simply negates the idea of a short position. We would like to see a weak rally with low volume, choppy price action, narrow spreads etc we get the exact opposite.

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Thanks for the informative reply. Again on the same topic. we just had a climatic move to the upside 5min chart. Would you qualify it as stopping volume?


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Thanks for the informative reply. Again on the same topic. we just had a climatic move to the upside 5min chart. Would you qualify it as stopping volume?


Your welcome:

I would ideally like to see more data for contextual purposes, other time frames etc. However I am familiar with this chart, as its the S&P. We have our axis line of 2437.00 (purple line in the Chronicles) resistance here is to be expected and indeed supply has emerged. We do get a spike in volume and a mid close, it is stopping volume of sorts, or a mini climax but supply SHOULD turn up here as its a major axis line that has been in play for weeks. Nothing is black and white in this methodology, whats important is that we understand whats price is saying, the labelling is unimportant.

Good question, hope this helps

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Your welcome:

I would ideally like to see more data for contextual purposes, other time frames etc. However I am familiar with this chart, as its the S&P. We have our axis line of 2437.00 (purple line in the Chronicles) resistance here is to be expected and indeed supply has emerged. We do get a spike in volume and a mid close, it is stopping volume of sorts, or a mini climax but supply SHOULD turn up here as its a major axis line that has been in play for weeks. Nothing is black and white in this methodology, whats important is that we understand whats price is saying, the labelling is unimportant.

Good question, hope this helps

F

@Feibel

This is something I am struggling to understand with volume analysis.
If that candle close was at a major level with high volume then that is all it is. High volume. We can not attach any meaning to the event.

Lets say contextually, you get a pinbar at a major price rally level where the overall trend is down - do you need volume to tell you that a major exchange occured?
No matter where price is or the PA signal, or how high volume is, you still only have a 50% chance of one thing happening over another.
Im not discounting volume at all, I just have doubts on the real time analysis of it. imo, hindsight is the only way to know how volume affected price.

Now, I am a complete noob when measured against your years of experience so please take this as a constructive question and not an attack on VSA. I am still intrigued by it but it has raised questions for me.

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@Feibel



This is something I am struggling to understand with volume analysis.

If that candle close was at a major level with high volume then that is all it is. High volume. We can not attach any meaning to the event.



Lets say contextually, you get a pinbar at a major price rally level where the overall trend is down - do you need volume to tell you that a major exchange occured?

No matter where price is or the PA signal, or how high volume is, you still only have a 50% chance of one thing happening over another.

Im not discounting volume at all, I just have doubts on the real time analysis of it. imo, hindsight is the only way to know how volume affected price.



Now, I am a complete noob when measured against your years of experience so please take this as a constructive question and not an attack on VSA. I am still intrigued by it but it has raised questions for me.



In my eyes it's the bar after the high volume that tells the story.


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@Feibel

This is something I am struggling to understand with volume analysis.
If that candle close was at a major level with high volume then that is all it is. High volume. We can not attach any meaning to the event.

Lets say contextually, you get a pinbar at a major price rally level where the overall trend is down - do you need volume to tell you that a major exchange occured?
No matter where price is or the PA signal, or how high volume is, you still only have a 50% chance of one thing happening over another.
Im not discounting volume at all, I just have doubts on the real time analysis of it. imo, hindsight is the only way to know how volume affected price.

Now, I am a complete noob when measured against your years of experience so please take this as a constructive question and not an attack on VSA. I am still intrigued by it but it has raised questions for me.

Its very difficult to answer ''what if scenarios'' I do not use candlesticks and have no clue what a pin bar is.

From my perspective I disagree, all we do with this method is to stack the odds in our favour by telling a story of strength or weakness, the quality of buying vs selling, what should happen at support or resistance etc? within context of the market as it is. Volume either confirms the presence of demand or supply, contextually via the close of the bar (which in a way is in hindsight, by one bar) Of course there are always rogue bars, remember one tree doesn't make a forest, its to the left of the chart that provides the necessary information.

We play the market by its own actions in real time by reading price and volume. Its a method that has been used for nearly a 100 years and still to this day used by many hedge funds. It's a great question and not taken personally, IF the method doesn't reside well or has internal conflicts (I had a similar situation with market profile, excellent way to trade, but not the interpretation of the market I desired), simply take whats of use and apply into your existing system.

Excellent question, thank you

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's trading:

Spring set ups x 3
Upthrust set up
Potential shakeout

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's trading:

Spring set ups x 3
Upthrust set up
Potential shakeout

Thanks again. Good trading. I am glad you mentionned a word about the shakeout as this was my interpretation but but i don't have a deep theoretical background around this concept. To me a shakeout is a quick unexpected move against the apparent trend to shake the weak hands out. But you discarded it afterward, while i thought it was valid. I was wondering, what qualities do you like to see in a shakeout?

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Thanks again. Good trading. I am glad you mentionned a word about the shakeout as this was my interpretation but but i don't have a deep theoretical background around this concept. To me a shakeout is a quick unexpected move against the apparent trend to shake the weak hands out. But you discarded it afterward, while i thought it was valid. I was wondering, what qualities do you like to see in a shakeout?

Thank you:

In Wyckoff we have a ''terminal shakeout'' that occurs at the end of accumulation, a trading range or into a support area. Or we have an ''ordinary shakeout'' that occurs in an uptrend. BOTH achieving the same result. Yesterdays action was a ''terminal shakeout'' on a 5m time frame.

In my trading its the ordinary shakeouts that get all the attention, due to the fact that we can on occasion profit from them with a setup. An ordinary shakeout in an uptrend, will as you said get rid of weak holders, usually (but not always) the next 2 to 3 proceeding bars will eradicate all the selling and start trading above continuing with the uptrend. We get instant confirmation that it was an ordinary shakeout, this means the market has more to give to the upside, we look for reasons to apply bullish setups or trade the shakeout itself

Terminal shakeouts are a little more complex and will often need testing due to it's nature

Good question,

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Upthrusts (testing setup)
Waves
Spring setup

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Wyckoff principles at play in today's action:

Absorption setup
Waves
Dis-confirming supply we get the confirmation of demand (Classic Wyckoff)

and multiple time frame analysis providing market insights

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Hi Feibel,

Thank you so much for your daily chart analysis.
Do you use Point and Figure charts in your daily analysis?? If you do, can you tell us what indicator do you use to chart PNF charts in NT.

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Hi Feibel,

Thank you so much for your daily chart analysis.
Do you use Point and Figure charts in your daily analysis?? If you do, can you tell us what indicator do you use to chart PNF charts in NT.

Thank you,
Sudhir.

Thank you, glad the Chronicles are of use

Point and figure I solely use for swing trading.

In NT7 click into the data series, under period click ''type'' its in the drop down menu as standard. No need for any additional indciators

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Wyckoff and VSA principles in today's action:

Upthrust setup
Hidden upthrust
No supply
Wyckoff logic - compare and contrast

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Wyckoff and VSA principles in today's action:

Upthrust setup
Hidden upthrust
No supply
Wyckoff logic - compare and contrast

What is the difference between a hidden amd normal uptrust? How many categories of uptrust are there?

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What is the difference between a hidden amd normal uptrust? How many categories of uptrust are there?

Good question:

Only 2 types of upthrust

1 - A normal upthrust, breaks last swing high before reversing (think of a bull trap, if this helps)

2 - A hidden upthrust, breaks the last ''local bars highs'', before reversing, personally I like to see a close under a few of the prior bars, adds to the picture of weakness. The secret to this concept is too think in multiple time frames - a local hidden upthrust on a 5m chart, would be an upthrust on a 30 sec or 1m chart. It's hidden because we upthrust resistance on a lower time frame. This is most useful in down trending conditions.

Hidden Upthrust's are more advanced and trickier to interpret than standard upthrusts. It had taken a couple of years practice and understanding before I traded the setup

Hope this helps,

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Wyckoff principles at play in today's action:

Bearish change of behaviour set up
Waves
Effort vs. Result

and a little on trade management

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play into today's action:

Shakeout
VSA no supply/testing setup
Spring
Weak pullback in established trend setup
Effort vs. Result

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@Feibel

I have a suggestion. Go get a trade leader account ASAP on Collective2 and i'll be your first subscriber, promise!.

Really, you know how to write a good trading diary.

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Classic Wyckoff setup (rally back to Ice)
Upthrust (excellent background conditions, no demand in a previous area of supply)

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Effort vs. Result (Wyckoff governing principle, excellent example)
Upthrust setup
VSA testing (no supply setup)
Classic Wyckoff (BUEC setup)
Waves

and a price action aberration (hidden buying)

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Upthrust (setup)
Testing upthrust combines Wave volume (decreasing demand setup)
Spring - to trade or not to trade?
Mini climatic bar
Presence of supply
Demand/buying zone

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Classic No demand setup
Upthrust setup
Upside shakeout
Trend Channels

and combining both the 5 minute and tick chart for a setup

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Shortening of the Thrust (critical Wyckoff element)
New momentum low (setup)
Waves - insight
No demand (setup)
Change of behaviour (setup)

A great edition of the Chronicles show casing various Wyckoff principles in a text book manner

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

Distribution (5m) A core Wyckoff component
Hidden upthrust setup
Upside shakeouts
Shortening of the Thrust
Waves (setup)
Spring

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Wyckoff and VSA principles at play in today's action:

VSA - No demand (setup)
Spring (setup)
Effort vs Result (excellent example)
Bar by Bar analysis

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