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both are momentum indicators so they are measuring the same thing. here is a example of what i am trying to say. pull up a 3 min. chart add on the 89 simple and 79 ex. moving averages..use them as trend. add on the keltner bands for dynamic S/R . next pick one momentum indicator the faster one will work better. now when the center moving average of the keltner bands blows through the 79 an 89 moving averages you know have a trend up or down. when the price action pull back close to the band you can look for over bought over sold conditions or divergances . if you have it take the trade stop just out side of band ...first target 50 at moving average target 2 the other side of band. if the keltner bands are tangled in the 79 an 89 ...no trading ...hope it helps
to add on higher time frame conflunace add a 8 period EMA on WEEKLY DAILY 240M AND 60M charts, only take long trades when price is above all EMA on all time frames or shorts if below all. hope it helps .
Hello forgiven...do you use the 2 MA' s (instead of one) with 10 points difference so you can offset faulghty signals in the case of choppy market for example?
this is a deep subject , the little concept i referenced i used 10 years ago when learning how to use them. the 89 simple and 79 EMA on a 3 min. chart should not have much of a spreed. when the 10 or 12 EMA your using on the keltner bands clear them you are in a up or down trend on the 3 min time frame. then you can use the upper or lower 20% of the bands for trade location depending on direction. stops just out side the bands ...tarket one at the EMA inside the band target 2 the other side of the band. so if you trading above the averages and you get a pull back to the lower part of the band go long if your indicator is over sold. the frist pull back is the best as you might quess. if you want more of a filter make sure price is trading above the 8 p. EMA on the weekly,daily, 240min, 60min, time trames . so to answer your question you use 2 on a 3 min charts , 1 on the loner time frame charts i do not trade this now ..i moved on in 10 years ,
Fairly new to futures (1yr) and order flow and volume based trading. Using Ninja Trader's new order flow suite+ have been watching the price action, along with the order flow and volume, and often when market has been in a trend, and see a lot of selling / buying, but the price has stopped advancing, then you get lots of volume to the opposite side, often means the trend has ended.....
you put a mom. indicator on your chart . if you make a lower low or higher high and indicator is not, you have a mom. div. that means the move is exasusted. it will stop and or reverse. on the time frame your looking at. so on a 3 min. chart that does mean much. on a weekly chart it means a hell of a lot . hope it helps