Learning AMT and Value Trading - futures io
futures io futures trading



Learning AMT and Value Trading


Discussion in Emini and Emicro Index

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one nam4trade with 2 posts (0 thanks)
    2. looks_two Hawk9 with 1 posts (0 thanks)
    3. looks_3 forgiven with 1 posts (0 thanks)
    4. looks_4 jbover with 1 posts (0 thanks)
    1. trending_up 2,583 views
    2. thumb_up 2 thanks given
    3. group 10 followers
    1. forum 9 posts
    2. attach_file 0 attachments




Welcome to futures io: the largest futures trading community on the planet, with well over 125,000 members
  • Genuine reviews from real traders, not fake reviews from stealth vendors
  • Quality education from leading professional traders
  • We are a friendly, helpful, and positive community
  • We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts
  • We are here to help, just let us know what you need
You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community.  It's free and simple.

-- Big Mike, Site Administrator

(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)

 
Search this Thread
 

Learning AMT and Value Trading

(login for full post details)
  #1 (permalink)
visakhapatnam, India
 
 
Posts: 2 since Oct 2015
Thanks: 0 given, 0 received

What is the best way to learn Auction Market Theory and trading value? What are the sources one should look at for learning these two.

Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on futures io?
What blockvolume is visible? - order processing
NinjaTrader
Volume Profile Indicator for Ninja Script in NT8
NinjaTrader
Webinar: Finding your own way in trading w/Adam Grimes
The Elite Circle
Improve current ZigZag indicator in NT8
NinjaTrader
Neurological explanations for trading Success
Psychology and Money Management
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on futures io
Battlestations: Show us your trading desks!
137 thanks
Want your NinjaTrader indicator created, free?
32 thanks
Big Mike in Ecuador
30 thanks
Saturday Morning Market Replay!
20 thanks
Selling Options on Futures?
19 thanks
 
(login for full post details)
  #3 (permalink)
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
 
 
Posts: 1 since Feb 2016
Thanks: 0 given, 0 received


Read "Mind Over Markets: Power Trading with Market Generated Information" by James Dalton. Then read "Markets in Profile: Profiting from the Auction Process" also by James Dalton. The first book lays the groundwork and gives you a good foundation. The second goes more in-depth on what you learn in the first book. Both helped me immensely, but you will need a decent level of knowledge about the market before you read them. So, if you are a beginner I recommend you really take your time and read it slowly and carefully. Hope it helps you!

Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #4 (permalink)
visakhapatnam, India
 
 
Posts: 2 since Oct 2015
Thanks: 0 given, 0 received


NolanRR View Post
Read "Mind Over Markets: Power Trading with Market Generated Information" by James Dalton. Then read "Markets in Profile: Profiting from the Auction Process" also by James Dalton. The first book lays the groundwork and gives you a good foundation. The second goes more in-depth on what you learn in the first book. Both helped me immensely, but you will need a decent level of knowledge about the market before you read them. So, if you are a beginner I recommend you really take your time and read it slowly and carefully. Hope it helps you!

Thanks so much, NolanRR. I will go through them first. But was also looking for any videos for grounding the basics.

Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #5 (permalink)
Des Moines, Iowa/USA
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Jigsaw, RTraderPro, NT8
Broker: Edge Clear, Rithmic
Trading: ES, NQ, YM, RTY, MES
 
Posts: 6 since May 2014
Thanks: 13 given, 18 received

A good series of free videos on order flow (with some basic auction theory thrown in) can be found at Free Tape Reading and Order Flow Training Materials - also you can search the https://www.jigsawtrading.com/ site and blog for other useful tidbits. They also post their daily prep info ( S&P Daily Pre-Market Prep 4/19/16 - today's info) on the https://www.topstep.com/ website. Topstep is also a good resource to comb through (Squawk radio, blog and daily livefeeds on various topics). Another useful site as is Home - FuturesTrader71 they offer a low cost 6 hour webinar/video course on auction theory. Also they offer a daily "traderbite" that can be livestreamed free everyday at 8:00AM Central Standard Time - the traderbites offer their glimpse of the market using auction theory before the open. All three groups have presented webinars on Futures.io and all groups have most all their videos on youtube. Futures.io also has many presentations that touch on the topic in their webinar/video section of this website.

Good Luck in your journey.

Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #6 (permalink)
San Tan Valley, AZ/USA
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NT7
Broker: IB, Tallinex, & 10 others.
Trading: Futures
 
FABRICATORX's Avatar
 
Posts: 195 since Jun 2013
Thanks: 697 given, 164 received

A Complete Guide to Volume Price Analysis by Anna Coulling.

-Jimmy
Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #7 (permalink)
Fletcher NC
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: nijia trader
Broker: A.M.P. I.Q. ....C.Q.G.
Trading: ym es
 
forgiven's Avatar
 
Posts: 665 since Mar 2012
Thanks: 154 given, 393 received

you want to trade in the direction of developing value for the most part. you have to learn the difference between a open action. opening drive, and opening test drive. you need to know about gaps and gap fills..what are areas of minus development and how to trade them...what is balance an unbalance and what that means on multi time frames..and how to read the order book like a bald eagle...peace of cake

Follow me on Twitter Visit my futures io Trade Journal Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #8 (permalink)
North Carolina
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: NinjaTrader, Tradestation
Trading: es
 
Posts: 644 since Nov 2011

Okay, my view may be contrary but my personal experience in market analysis was that I found almost every technical analysis method to click very easily for me. But, I had a long time and a lot of difficulty with market profile. It was only when I recognized that market profile is not a trading method that it also clicked for me. You can't really learn market profile so to speak because it's not a trading strategy/method. It is merely a way of visualizing market data.

I am going to explain why (I believe/conjecture) it clicked for floor traders and why the magic isn't in the visualization. The floor traders already had to keep track of the price in their mind. How do you do that? You look at the price of the last market and you repeat it. So floor traders had a very good sense of how time and volume correlated. The market profile was just a visual representation of what they were already doing in their head!

That's why it presumably came so easily to them and made so much sense. But now, it is taught as a visual method. I imagine a lot of things are like that. It might become difficult to learn because it is formalized, abstracted, and taken out of the original context. In summary, the easiest way to learn market profile might to learn to trade without charts and then go back and look at the market profile.

Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #9 (permalink)
SoCal, CA
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Broker: Mirus/Zen-fire
Trading: currency futures
 
Posts: 21 since Feb 2010
Thanks: 4 given, 15 received

Get the Thinkorswim platform and watch Ben L. in the FuturesCast Chat room. He is is using live AMT on many different futures markets during RTH. He has a 1 hour class every Wednesday after RTH explaining AMT on many timeframes.

Reply With Quote
 
(login for full post details)
  #10 (permalink)
Phoenix, AZ
 
 
Posts: 67 since Feb 2016
Thanks: 3 given, 38 received


Dalton and even Steidlmeyer have their own jargon and vernacular they use.

The CME Group put out a book in 1997, free online called Six Part Study Guide. Just Google it and get the PDF.

It is second to none in explaining everything concisely with no funny or confusing terms and without using vague comparisons like "the overnight inventory looks too long".

IMO FT71 is an excellent teacher as well. But he uses a number of advanced techniques and loads of tools and software that are a hurdle for anyone to get over.

Reply With Quote
The following 2 users say Thank You to cpuz for this post:


futures io Trading Community Traders Hideout Emini and Emicro Index > Learning AMT and Value Trading


Last Updated on March 31, 2018


Upcoming Webinars and Events
 

NinjaTrader Indicator Challenge!

Ongoing
 

Battlestations! Show us your trading desk - $1,500 in prizes!

March
 

Importance of Finding Your Own Way w/Adam Grimes

Elite only
 

Journal Challenge w/Jigsaw

April
     



Copyright © 2021 by futures io, s.a., Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama, +507 833-9432, info@futures.io
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice.
There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
no new posts