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Osaka Nikkei 225 mini index futures

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Besides that, I think if you need tick data you will be out of luck for the most part, unless you get an Asian broker that offers that sort of service.

True ! I will move to Asia next year.My friend was move there already,and he will use Philip Futures SG.For me best choice as I find now is to take a profits and back to trading next year.Becouse US dollar is so strong I got time to check this out.Definitelly it is best time to get into emerging markets for these who want get a lot of profits...

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By the way - little off topic

This is how ,,easy'' is some ,,emerging '' futures

FW20 (+0.60%) - WIG20 FUTURE - Stooq

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I'm currently trying to figure out a good minimum scalp size for the N225M. I'm thinking either 3 or 4 ticks. A lot of people scalp for one point on the ES, so I'm trying to compare costs.

Percentage cost of scalping for 1 poing on the ES: ($12.50 spread + $4 commission) / $50 = 33%

Percentage cost of scalping for 3 ticks on the N225M: (500 yen spread + 80 yen commission) / 1500 yen = 38.7%

Percentage cost of scalping for 4 ticks on the N225M: (500 yen spread + 80 yen commission) / 2000 yen = 29%


I think if scalping for 3 ticks, the win rate needs to be unrealistically high. Scalping for 4 ticks is tough, but with scaling in, I think it is doable. The problem with the N225M seems to be that the range is often very small, so scalping with limit order entries at the extremes is probably the most reasonable thing to do in this market context. The massive liquidity tells me that this is exactly what the market participants are doing, whether they are institutions or retail.

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To do that much better will be ,,full'' topix futures.0.50 index point tick,low commission also - and you can scalp for one tick.Or trade Nikkei vs Topix.

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Just got this email. Anyone know if I can get some demo data for ninjatrader?

"AMP Futures is excited to announce Asia's Most Liquid Futures Contract (Mini-Nikkei 225) is now available for Live Trading."

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Just got this email. Anyone know if I can get some demo data for ninjatrader?

"AMP Futures is excited to announce Asia's Most Liquid Futures Contract (Mini-Nikkei 225) is now available for Live Trading."

Extremely expensive commissions from AMP. Pretty much stealing out of your pocket. Interactive Brokers is far, far cheaper. What I would do is use AMP CQG for data and place trades through IB.

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Extremely expensive commissions from AMP. Pretty much stealing out of your pocket. Interactive Brokers is far, far cheaper. What I would do is use AMP CQG for data and place trades through IB.

What's the comparison?

I can see the AMP ones in their email, but what do IB charge?

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What's the comparison?

I can see the AMP ones in their email, but what do IB charge?

80 yen roundtrip.

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Amp has it on their calculator at AMP Cost Calculator

For the flat-rate tier, it's $1 RT (this includes the CQG's 20 cent Routing Fee).

For those of us with not so much to trade with (Volume-Tiered) it's a little higher at $1.50.

I just hope Rithmic starts delivering it :-)

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Extremely expensive commissions from AMP. Pretty much stealing out of your pocket. Interactive Brokers is far, far cheaper. What I would do is use AMP CQG for data and place trades through IB.

I told AMP about this and they lowered it to $1 RT which is about the same as IB

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