NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





One year later into my trading career...........seeking guidance and direction


Discussion in Emini and Emicro Index

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one budfox with 49 posts (14 thanks)
    2. looks_two tturner86 with 18 posts (64 thanks)
    3. looks_3 tigertrader with 10 posts (190 thanks)
    4. looks_4 Big Mike with 8 posts (42 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one tigertrader with 19 thanks per post
    2. looks_two josh with 7.3 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 Big Mike with 5.3 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 tturner86 with 3.6 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 39,155 views
    2. thumb_up 481 thanks given
    3. group 33 followers
    1. forum 148 posts
    2. attach_file 12 attachments




 
Search this Thread

One year later into my trading career...........seeking guidance and direction

  #111 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,396 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,172
Thanks Received: 101,536

Moderator Notice
Moderator Notice



@tigertrader in particular, find a way to give advice without insulting people or calling them names. Or simply don't engage that user at all and move on to others who still benefit from what you write and who don't get your blood boiling. Either way, stop with the rude behavior.

Mike

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
The space time continuum and the dynamics of a financial …
Emini and Emicro Index
NT7 Indicator Script Troubleshooting - Camarilla Pivots
NinjaTrader
NexusFi Journal Challenge - April 2024
Feedback and Announcements
Exit Strategy
NinjaTrader
Futures True Range Report
The Elite Circle
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on NexusFi
Get funded firms 2023/2024 - Any recommendations or word …
61 thanks
Funded Trader platforms
39 thanks
NexusFi site changelog and issues/problem reporting
26 thanks
The Program
18 thanks
GFIs1 1 DAX trade per day journal
18 thanks
  #112 (permalink)
 budfox 
Toronto
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Sierra
Broker: MB
Trading: ES
Posts: 313 since Jun 2013


tturner86 View Post
People give you their opinion, but you don't listen. You 'decide' something else and then tag the same 20 people asking for their opinion again.

@tigertrader took some considerable time to write those two posts. Read, research, and digest.

I get the sense lately that everyone wants everyone else to do the work for them. That isn't going to work. Figure out how to do it for yourself. Any time tiger or another poster post something I don't understand I google and research the hell out of it. People were missing tiger's commentary in the Spoo thread over Thanksgiving, they shouldn't have been. They should understand what tiger looks at and been making their own (and there was a few who were).

But again the idea isn't to learn how to trade like another trader. The idea is to figure out how to get past your own shortcomings, read what the market is saying, and then create actionable ideas and then execute them. If you can't do any of that then you can't trade. Trading isn't like little league, everyone doesn't get a trophy and an attaboy. Not everyone is gonna be a good trader.

I was asking about opinion and advice about my recent idea/perspective. (not related to posts given months ago).

Thank You.

Started this thread Reply With Quote
  #113 (permalink)
 
tturner86's Avatar
 tturner86 
Portland, Oregon
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: F-16CM-40
Trading: GBU-39
Posts: 6,191 since Sep 2013
Thanks Given: 10,459
Thanks Received: 12,695



budfox View Post
I was asking about opinion and advice about my recent idea/perspective. (not related to posts given months ago).

Thank You.

My point still stands. Learn to think for yourself... It doesn't matter the method or the strategy. If you cannot read, think, and create your own ideas nothing will work.

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #114 (permalink)
 
tigertrader's Avatar
 tigertrader 
Philly, Pa
Legendary Market Wizard
 
Experience: Master
Platform: NinjaTrader
Trading: ES, ZB
Posts: 6,482 since Jul 2010
Thanks Given: 6,662
Thanks Received: 36,257


tturner86 View Post
We'll call it the Tigercator. The last indicator you will ever need.


Big Mike View Post
Moderator Notice
Moderator Notice



@tigertrader in particular, find a way to give advice without insulting people or calling them names. Or simply don't engage that user at all and move on to others who still benefit from what you write and who don't get your blood boiling. Either way, stop with the rude behavior.

Mike

with all do respect @Big Mike, why i am being rude, when i respond to someone who has taken the initiative to insult me first? my response did not entail any profanity, and really wasn't a personal attack; but instead, an accurate assessment of my critic.

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #115 (permalink)
 
tturner86's Avatar
 tturner86 
Portland, Oregon
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: F-16CM-40
Trading: GBU-39
Posts: 6,191 since Sep 2013
Thanks Given: 10,459
Thanks Received: 12,695


tigertrader View Post
with all do respect @Big Mike, why i am being rude, when i respond to someone who has taken the initiative to insult me first? my response did not entail any profanity, and really wasn't a personal attack; but instead, an accurate assessment of my critic.

I hope you didn't quote me thinking I was insulting you. As that wasn't my intention. I was simply playing off Dan's post.

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #116 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,396 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,172
Thanks Received: 101,536


tigertrader View Post
with all do respect @Big Mike, why i am being rude, when i respond to someone who has taken the initiative to insult me first? my response did not entail any profanity, and really wasn't a personal attack; but instead, an accurate assessment of my critic.

I understand. That person has been on my ignore list for a while so I don't see his posts. I very rarely use ignore, as administrator, but since someone else paid for his membership as a gift I feel bad banning him.

Just put him on ignore if you have too and move on

Sent from my phone

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #117 (permalink)
 
PandaWarrior's Avatar
 PandaWarrior 
In the heat
 
Experience: None
Posts: 3,165 since Mar 2010
Thanks Given: 6,329
Thanks Received: 13,404


budfox View Post
Hi Pandawarrior,



Sorry if I am annoying you. The reason I tag you in my posts is that I value your input. You were one of the first few people that offered me advice when I was first starting out.





Why do you think I should get a job? (ie not trade)


You don't value anyone's input.....which is obvious to all but yourself.

It's also obvious to all you seem incapable of thinking for yourself. Therefore I suggest you get a job so you don't have to think.

Do not tag me again. I'm a reasonable and normally non confrontational person but I'm pretty much tired of your antics as I suspect most are.

I'll probably be taking @Big Mikes advice and placing you on the ignore list.

Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication, Leonardo da Vinci


Most people chose unhappiness over uncertainty, Tim Ferris
Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #118 (permalink)
 Anna K 
LA, ca
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: TradeStation
Trading: Es
Posts: 507 since Jan 2014
Thanks Given: 1,623
Thanks Received: 1,062


tigertrader View Post
if you would actually, THINK about what i'm saying, my lengthy ambiguous posts would have some meaning and would actually be of help to you. for someone who is going about the whole process of learning how to trade in an ass-backwards, myopic, & closed-minded manner, you are the last person who should be giving advice. my posts may seemingly be "ambiguous" or based on theory. and, i understand the word “theory,” makes most traders leery because they associate theory with theoretical , which implies impractical. but, if you define theory as a contingent explanation of cause and effect, it is eminently practical. a sound theory helps predict how actions or events lead to specific outcomes across a broad range of circumstances. my main message is that much of trading practice is unsound because it is based on poor practice as a result of improper theory. that is most traders generally dwell on attribute-based categorizations of the market i.e., patterns, formations and set-ups versus circumstance or contextual based categorizations. sound theories reflect context. most traders fail because the market doesn't do what they think it should, and this is because they really aren't trading the market. they don't take enough risk and they aren't patient enough to hold onto their winners. their theory of how to trade the market is flawed from the beginning and for most, they never come to a true understanding of how to effectively approach the market. a good theoretical understanding of how to approach trading leads to a practical application that is successful and profitable.

Dear Tiger, I truly apologize for being so dense that some of your writing doesn't make sense to me. I only assume that I'm not alone there and some other people may be not as bright as you are, otherwise everybody on this forum would be making a lot of money after reading and rereading your lenghy theoretical prose. So I just want them not to feel alone

Please don't take my inability to understand your brilliant advice personally. My intention is not to insult you, but simply to show that not everybody can think like you, understand the markets like you and trade like you. Wouldn't you agree that there are successful traders who trade and analyze the markets differently from you? You can't possibly claim monopoly over knowledge! There is a possibility of going another way, however "ass-backwards" it may seem to you.

I even agree with you on many parts of your well-though out, non-"patronizing" and "honest" posts, for example with this:
"most traders fail because the market doesn't do what they think it should, and this is because they really aren't trading the market".

So keep working that "chisel to break down the brick wall of ignorance that stands between success and failure." Don't give up on us!

I wish you much success, patience and empathy in the New Year!

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #119 (permalink)
 
wldman's Avatar
 wldman 
Chicago Illinois USA
Legendary Market Wizard
 
Experience: Advanced
Broker: IB, ToS
Trading: /ES, US Equities/Options
Frequency: Several times daily
Duration: Hours
Posts: 3,507 since Aug 2011
Thanks Given: 2,046
Thanks Received: 9,491

it is Anna K that initiates by referring to other members posts as lengthy, ambiguous, and of little or no use in real life trading.

Oh my God the irony.

Start it, uninitiated, with another member (who happens to be exactly correct) and then report the post that responds with similar tone and language?

I'll share my two cents.

Folks, if you want the input of someone who's humility and lack of a publicist prevented him from being featured in the pop psychology trading books that so many love...if you want the input of someone that was prolific for decades among floor trading legends...if you value the insight of an extremely well versed professional trader that is connected to the absolute top players in the history of the most competitive trading environments the world has ever seen....consider approaching Mr. long winded ambiguous low value poster @tigertrader with an open mind and the due respect that he well deserves for sharing here for free insight and information that could be worth millions of dollars.

@Big Mike like I have said a hundred times, your venue, your rules. I applaud what you have created here Mike and the countless hours of work, much of it tedious and a pain in the buttocks. This is a remarkable venue, without question the best on the net. I am beyond grateful to be a member here. I understand your reaction to a post being referred to moderator. That said, please consider an equal request be made to the other party by name like was made of Gary. His lengthy and thoughtful response to a struggling trader is EXACTLY what we want here as members. Dozens of Gary's posts should be required reading of anyone that wants to enter the fray and this one (referred to as low value ambiguity) is no exception. I have skin thicker than a rhino and I have, in fact, seen it all so the post that was directed at my friend is greeted with the hilarity that it deserves..but equal folks would take equal offense, for sure. Past that Gary amended his post to modify the intent so that it could be understood by a wider audience.

So, where does a cowboy in the jungle go for a month to get away from it all anyway. Hoping that was vacation and well deserved leisure.

Dan

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
  #120 (permalink)
 
wldman's Avatar
 wldman 
Chicago Illinois USA
Legendary Market Wizard
 
Experience: Advanced
Broker: IB, ToS
Trading: /ES, US Equities/Options
Frequency: Several times daily
Duration: Hours
Posts: 3,507 since Aug 2011
Thanks Given: 2,046
Thanks Received: 9,491


do not bite on that.

Anna that reads as disingenuous, or satirical and frankly you ought to be ashamed. You can have the last word though and you can continue to be whoever you choose. No offense taken at the lengthy, ambiguous and low value comments, but this one here is a gem.

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:




Last Updated on January 27, 2019


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts