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Wanted - Australian SPI traders

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Johno1
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Hi All I am new here so be nice . Does anyone have Historical SPI 1 minute data for 2016 / 2017 they are will to share before I have to shell out to one of the usual places . I want to test an algo I have been working on that can hopefully predict the market direction at the open and scalp 20 plus points Cheers in advance

Having traded the SPI among other markets full time on and off since the early 90s I can tell you that this is going to be an interesting journey for you, it certainly has been for me.

Generally the SPI will begin it's move from the high/low of the previous day session or immediately after the afternoon cash close, often dramatically when it does, this may in fact be a reversal and usually indicating O/N direction.
Generally,once the early trend has been established, it will be flatish thru the evening and then start to accelerate in to the US open, it can be quite volitile thru the wee hours often providing the best O/N opportunities around 5-6am, bearing in mind that you are taking on more risk due to the wider O/N spreads and the fact that the market may very well be substantially if not fully priced by this stage, subjecting you to an even larger hit if the market gaps against you on the open. It will be virtually impossible to detect the potential negative outcome from a chart based analysis as this will be indicating the O/N trend, not what is coming on the open, flip a coin. Reversion strategies applied to these scenarious have the potential to cause much great sadness. The reason that I am saying this is that any move you catch will probably have an overall negative EV and will therefore eventuate as a waste of time. Meanwhile your losses are going to be swift and painful, how on earth can you apply a sensible stop to a potentially unknown gap scenario. Much smarter to start your trade from the High/Low of the previous session, you will either be kicked out of the trade early or usually have a decent paper profit buffer to help weather the open volitility.

But, as the say, "you never know until you give it a go", so good luck.

Cheers John

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Ozquant
Brisbane Queensland Australia
 
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Given the consistent daily ATR on Australian 200 i'm surprised more people dont trade it . Has great patterns , does 80% of daily range of opening swing reversal inside first 90 minutes most days . Hopefully a crew can develop here , as an XJO trader i havent found many others doing it . Daily ATR currently 1.1% , SPX hasnt been doing that in 2 weeks .....



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 numas 
Perth WA Australia
 
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Looks interesting. Quite the range this one..



*note to self*

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 Angelo1 
Adelaide Australia
 
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Hi all
we are all in the same time zone, so we have that in common

i'm wanting to create a group

anyone interested please pm me

wanting to spread the problems of trading into smaller manageable tasks

happy to openly chat about it to see what happens given this thread is losing its pulse

Angelo
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 XDiavel 
Gold Coast, Australia
 
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Apologies for the bumping of the old tread, what's the best way to trade SPI natively via NT8?
Tried AMP & CQG but their data doesn't have any bid/ask volume in it and NT doesn't load historical data from SPI because they've decided to.

Your feedback is much appreciated, thank you!

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 Marty087 
Sydney NSW Australia
 
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Ozquant View Post
Given the consistent daily ATR on Australian 200 i'm surprised more people dont trade it . Has great patterns , does 80% of daily range of opening swing reversal inside first 90 minutes most days . Hopefully a crew can develop here , as an XJO trader i havent found many others doing it . Daily ATR currently 1.1% , SPX hasnt been doing that in 2 weeks .....




Still trading the SPI Ozquant? Doesnt seem to be many around..

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Ozquant
Brisbane Queensland Australia
 
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Still trading the SPI Ozquant? Doesnt seem to be many around..

Yeah still trading it .

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