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Trading the new CME E-Micro's (E micro) MES, MNQ, MYM, M2K and other micros

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 shortcreeker 
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Instead of signing up for the CME competition I decided to participate in the nexusfi.com journal challenge and to trade the MES (ES Micros) with a live account and journal every trade. This has been working really well and gives me a sense of how my strategy is working and as it is a live account it means allot more to me than a trade in a sim account. After identifying and live testing a successful trading strategy on the Micros I will move to the full ES contract...with the experience and confidence that trading live brings. Here is the link to the nexusfi.com journal challenge

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Rather than ask us to run compatibility software such as 'Wine' to enable the Imac user to utilise Ninjatrader, could you not build an Imac specific Ninjatrader platform?

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Rather than ask us to run compatibility software such as 'Wine' to enable the Imac user to utilise Ninjatrader, could you not build an Imac specific Ninjatrader platform?

The underlying technology NinjaTrader is built upon (Microsoft .NET) does not run on a Mac.

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 hurleydood 
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The underlying technology NinjaTrader is built upon (Microsoft .NET) does not run on a Mac.

According to Microsoft, Microsoft .NET also runs on Linux and MacOS.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/macos-prerequisites

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According to Microsoft, Microsoft .NET also runs on Linux and MacOS.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/macos-prerequisites



Dot net Core runs on mac and Linux. Dot net FRAMEWORK, on which ninjatrader is built, does not.


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 hurleydood 
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Dot net Core runs on mac and Linux. Dot net FRAMEWORK, on which ninjatrader is built, does not.


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They could get there faster with Avalonia .NET UI framework which supports WPF and SharpDX. https://avaloniaui.net/

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 bobwest 
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Dot net Core runs on mac and Linux. Dot net FRAMEWORK, on which ninjatrader is built, does not.

Aside from that, the task of porting over a large and complex program to an entirely different operating system would be something of a nightmare, even if you could throw a load of programmers at it, and if you were willing to spend a lot of time on it. (What is a "lot"? It took NT several years to get NT8 running well on Windows, in the upgrade from NT7. Porting to an entirely new environment would be a huge job.)

For a task this large, there would have to be a very large financial incentive to go to the Mac, one that would more profitable than just letting Mac users run NT using one of the usual ways to run a Windows program on the Mac. Not a decision I would make.

I don't speak for NT, of course. I'm just a guy typing on a web forum.

I don't think you're going to see this conversion, though. That's a pity, because being able to run something as native code on any machine just by recompiling has long been a sought-for goal, but one that isn't here yet.

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It's really straightforward IMO: if you want to run trading software, you must run Windows. Bottom line. I don't like it either.. I ran Sierra Chart in a VM for some time on my linux machine, and eventually got tired of the limitations inherent with that, and just set up two machines, one Windows for trading only, and my work/everything workstation running Linux. Throw in my work MBP and I'm running all 3 major OSes most every day

Porting anything that is so heavily UI-centric like trading software is not really so much a port as a total rewrite. Native applications are themselves a bit of a dying breed--the web (and mobile, by extension) became the new platform of choice for modern applications several years ago. Just look at the new TT web -- TT took on a multi year project to rebirth X Trader as a web platform.

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 Nostar123 
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https://www.cmegroup.com/futures_challenge/leaderboard

I think you need to create a cme account first though

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Hello traders,

Can you help us push the Micro-CL contract on CME/NYMEX by voting in this poll? I started pushing the micro indices back in 2012 and it took too long to get it done. We want to show them that there is demand for micro-energies.

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I will be meeting with directors at CME later this week.

Appreciated!

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