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Chas method is conservative,
one has to learn his system and objective behind his conservative style.
as with all trades the possibility of loss or drawdown during the holding period of the trade, can and does occur,
perhaps a few consecutive stops, and if properly managed, and one doesn't freeze at the switch, one can step into the pitch and lower the stoploss on a losing trade, or move one's stop into the BE+1, BE+2, BE+3 range before an unanticipated reversal occurs and let it take you out, but out with the ability to trade again.
his conservative method lets many trades that don't set up properly, just go. the logical opposite of that is chasing, which one never knows whether one is buying the top or not
his conservative method stops out at 21 ticks and is being improved with the latest methods, so that the 40pip, 60pip, 80pip, 120pip, 160pip, 200pip runs can be had
there are a few services out there claiming to capture huge end to end moves, particularly in the overnight session
Chas method isn't a panacea, its reality tempered down to tolerable levels,
the logical alternatives can be found in the chatbox and other threads.... pick your poison
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I've only read part of this thread, and don't really know too much about your method.
Regardless, I think it's funny that you share a(n apparently) profitable method and people spend most of their time tweaking it, before they even master the basics... Even funnier is that if they fail at trading, they will still blame your system.
One has to account for the possibility that any system can be approve upon, though. But usually that requires a solid understanding of the foundation.
There really isn't much joy in sharing specifics on how to trade profitably, it's usually lose-lose situation...
As Charles noted in the live trading room, that in the last two weeks there hasn't been as many clear and clean setups on the Euro especially during the Euro session. Sometimes we are all waiting for hours and skip out "unclean" setups. Now more often while getting close to a "trigger" point, suddenly price moves fast and ruins the setup or jumps the other way. Hopefully HFT is not ruining this edge and this is more due to the European crisis.
There have been a few traders in the room who report they made trades "in between" and also on the ES using Charles' method or their own method or a mix. Like what has been mentioned on this thread often, this system is very conservative. Those who have their own scalp method can probably scalp in between the setups. I recall in a webinar of Al Brooks, that he said scalping with a 1:1 or even 2:1 ratio can work provided the scalper was good enough with a 90% consistency.
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I also received his email and I understand his point of view. I did respond to him with support and encouragement along with some ideas on how he might be able to move forward. I have been in 4 or 5 trading rooms as I enjoy being part of a group during trading hours. He has a unusual talent of being a great trader and a great educator. I hope there is some way he will continue.
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I also hope he will reconsider, I was hoping to ask him to do a futures.io (formerly BMT) webinar in October.
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