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The only problem is that i can not calculate the top of that bubble (i'll think, maybe i'll be able to come up with
some metric, market cap stagnation, etc..

This has some parallels with the Internet bubble of the 2000s. Not saying it's the same thing but I can see the craze around that, and you are illustrating the craze around cryptocurrencies this time around. Everybody was pumping stupid amounts of money in any firm that had a .com at the end without any due diligence. Seems like cryptocurrencies are springing like mushrooms now, with no regard to the reliability or the robustness of the infrastructure.


As for calculating the top, my take is that it's akin to calculating a reversal of any other instrument: you can't.

You can have edge-u-cated guesses with metrics analogous to what you wrote (acceleration, exhaustion, etc.) but I don't think you can accurately tell otherwise.

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I saw some articles where a bubble burst in crypto currencies is painted/down played as "no big deal", Bitcoin is nowhere near to the internet bubble, but I think that one needs to compare the SUM of all crypto currencies in order to make a more relavant comparison. The "Internet Bubble" was not Altavista alone, or Yahoo, or Cmgi, or ...

If you notice that many of the smaller crypto currencies went up today with 20% and more, i think we are create a bubble of much more than a trillion dollar before end of the year..

A quick sum of the largest initiatives tells me a capitalization of 0.437 T$ (sorry was typo before, we are beyond 437 B$)


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There are 195 countries in the world, on investing.com alone, i found 1364 crypto currencies and related initiatives...

The top 90 crypto currency have a joint market cap of 434.27 B$
Their value increased today with an amount of 36.42 B$ or roughly 9.15% (average)

I can understand that in the crypto currency market there is something that will make it and change the
world as we know it today. But i can not understand that all of the initiatives (i took the 90 biggest one's)
will survive and that there is a reason for them to increase 9.15% today only...

And with my payment system back-ground, i can tell you that 10 tx per second is not a system that is going
to change the world, such a system can not even handle the volume of a small country like Belgium
where the national payment switch handles 200tx / second (not even talking about UK, Germany or France
which are much bigger countries..)

Attached is my rough calculation for today..

For me this is as sure a proof of a bubble as EMC2 was for Einstein.

The only problem is that i can not calculate the top of that bubble (i'll think, maybe i'll be able to come up with
some metric, market cap stagnation, etc..

People with smart ideas can message me

Heard an interesting perspective on crypto's last week from a major hedge fund manager. Summarizing it they were basically saying crypto currency are going to be huge. Everybody wants to bet on that so everybody is buying Bitcoin. An analogy to this was the internet in the 90's. Everybody want to bet on that as well. So what did they do? They went out and bought companies like Cisco ( CSCO). Fast forward to today, where Cisco is still a major player in the internet space and it's trading half what it was 20 years ago. They also made the similar analogy for Yahoo. Point being, crypto's could well be huge, but the chances of Bitcoin being "THE" currency is probably low. Of course that doesn't mean it can't got a lot higher first!

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1000 people own 40% of the Bitcoin market.

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Bloomberg : The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of the Market

Interesting Read

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-08/the-bitcoin-whales-1-000-people-who-own-40-percent-of-the-market


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1000 people own 40% of the Bitcoin market.

Your late to the party!

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Your late to the party!



Fashionably late........lol

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Here is my daily crypto "bubble" update.

Today the market cap of the crypto's that are 100M$ and more, is a total of 478,683,990,000 US$
and increase of 44,410,465,000 US$ (we talking billions here)

Ask one of the big FANG companies, how the hell you can create 44B$ in one day, ask Warren Buffet,
or any other captain of industry, however, that is the result of people pooring money into the crypto
fire...

The market cap went up 10,22%

I wrote yesterday that if we continue to do this, we will reach a Trillion US$ before the end of the year...
the bubble is inflated at a very rapid pace..

attached is the math

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Here is my daily crypto "bubble" update.

Today the market cap of the crypto's that are 100M$ and more, is a total of 478,683,990,000 US$
and increase of 44,410,465,000 US$ (we talking billions here)

Ask one of the big FANG companies, how the hell you can create 44B$ in one day, ask Warren Buffet,
or any other captain of industry, however, that is the result of people pooring money into the crypto
fire...

The market cap went up 10,22%

I wrote yesterday that if we continue to do this, we will reach a Trillion US$ before the end of the year...
the bubble is inflated at a very rapid pace..

attached is the math

Thanks for this. What is sheet 1 compared to sheet 2? Yesterday and today?

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Thanks for this. What is sheet 1 compared to sheet 2? Yesterday and today?

Ron

Correct
First sheet is yesterday, second is today

but that is now all no longer needed, as you can follow live the evolution of all crypto coins on
the following link

Both tell the same story, the market cap of crypto coins are going through the roof, while there
is no reasonable rational to explain it, other than many many people putting their money
because it goes up...

If you do an IPO (list a company), you have to go through very rigid rules, that need to be
respected. Today any garage team can create a crypto currency and sell it to the masses,
this will go bad.. and then after the facts, the regulators will jump on it, learning from the
mistakes..

You can not simply crate 40B$ out of thin air... in a day

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