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I have been googling to find any trading platforms that support cryptocurrencies, while i have found many websites that do so, I have not found a programmed platform that does so. I am wondering if you guys know of any that do so?

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I have been googling to find any trading platforms that support cryptocurrencies, while i have found many websites that do so, I have not found a programmed platform that does so. I am wondering if you guys know of any that do so?

Sierra charts has the data feeds for many of the Crypto's and I chart them.

I personally don't trade them from SC, but SC does support BitMex.

https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/BitMEX_Trading.php

I use the gdax.com exchange and I've been with Coinbase for quite a while now.

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Thanks to both of you but with out a wallet SC is pretty worthless in my book, and having a charting via a webpage is counter productive imo. but again thanks.

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Thanks to both of you but with out a wallet SC is pretty worthless in my book, and having a charting via a webpage is counter productive imo. but again thanks.

Not sure exactly what you had in mind or wanted to do here? Just chart them or actually trade them?

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Not sure exactly what you had in mind or wanted to do here? Just chart them or actually trade them?



i am looking for a platform that will chart them think ninjatrader not etrade, with a wallet to store my loot.


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Have you tried the NT forum to see if that's possible? Not an NT user here, so I can't help you.

Gdax is a decent exchange and, as stated, being a Coinbase.com user it's ideal for me.

The only down side is each exchange is independent as far as price and market movement, so it's not 100% accurate to use one exchange's price info in that regard.

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Have you tried the NT forum to see if that's possible? Not an NT user here, so I can't help you.


my only reason for naming nt is to differentiate the type of platform as i am not looking for a web base charting/trading platform, and unlike the SC set up, the wallet would need to be part of the system.



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my only reason for naming nt is to differentiate the type of platform as i am not looking for a web base charting/trading platform, and unlike the SC set up, the wallet would need to be part of the system.



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Only one I've heard of that's close to what you have described is coinigy.com and I've read about it, but have no personal experience using it.

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Only one I've heard of that's close to what you have described is coinigy.com and I've read about it, but have no personal experience using it.



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Thanks to both of you but with out a wallet SC is pretty worthless in my book, and having a charting via a webpage is counter productive imo. but again thanks.

Maybe I wrong but my understanding is that when you 'trade' (as opposed to actually exchange) cryptocurrencies on any exchange, nothing is in your wallet. The exchange credits your account but not your wallet with the currency. For it to actually appear in your wallet you need to withdraw it (or whatever it is called) and pay the excessively high fee to do that. This is one of the reasons I have stayed away, especially after Mt. Gox, Bitfinex and I assume other exchange issues, where currency is not in your wallet.

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IMO it's not worth trading because the spread is just criminal.
I wanted to sell my ethers when they were trading around 300. I could sell them for 280 and could buy more for 320.

So even though the volatility is appealing, the spread is insane and therefore not worth trading.
I think you're better off with a buy & hold strategy.
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Anyway, back to your question: I'm not aware of any charting platforms or datafeed.

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I think you're better off with a buy & hold strategy.

A buy, pay withdrawal fee and put in your wallet, hold strategy.

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nothing is in your wallet. The exchange credits your account but not your wallet with the currency. For it to actually appear in your wallet you need to withdraw it (or whatever it is called) and pay the excessively high fee to do that.

Mostly likely, but to be a bit more clear I want a platform that also duobles as my wallet, not that it is trading from within my wallet.

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Mostly likely, but to be a bit more clear I want a platform that also duobles as my wallet, not that it is trading from within my wallet.

I think it's time you created your own desktop based exchange that doubles as your wallet, but doesn't trade from your wallet...

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I think it's time you created your own desktop based exchange that doubles as your wallet, but doesn't trade from your wallet...



hmmm...


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I have been using Coinigy for a few months now.

It's a decent platform, but it is a tad buggy, and not the best platform.

If you're used to things like NT, which work VERY well, Coinigy is not that good. BUt it is good enough, particularly for swing/position trading, which is all I do.

You can connect MOST exchanges to it, and trade them all through that platform.

So... as far as current cypto options out there, it is far and away the best one I've seen.

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I've been trading the crypto's quite a bit more over the last few months as they tend to move more over the weekends when the traditional markets are closed.

Opened up a kraken.com account and while it's not an ideal exchange (IMO) they have way more crypto / currency pairs than coinbase does and their fees seem reasonable.

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Bumping this thread.
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The space has certainly grown since 2017. Alot of institutional involvement and CME have just announced Ethereum Futures. Definitely a quirky market as it's 24/7. Big moves can happen over the weekend. There is no true RTH session like Futures/Equities etc. But alot of the volatility/movement can happen in EURO/USA hours. Really keen to hear from more Crypto guys on this forum.

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The 24x7 of crypto vs the traditional 23x5 or even 16x5 of traditional futures markets is interesting and potentially a risk management problem if your trading futures. CME's Jan Bitcoin closed at $29385 on Thursday 31st which probably equates to about a $29250 cash price. Here we ae on Sat 2nd just after midday, CME markets will not reopen for another 27 hours, and Bitcoin is trading $31544 on Coinbase and has been as high as $33,300. Thats a 13.8% move while the markets have been closed over a long weekend!

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The 24x7 of crypto vs the traditional 23x5 or even 16x5 of traditional futures markets is interesting and potentially a risk management problem if your trading futures. CME's Jan Bitcoin closed at $29385 on Thursday 31st which probably equates to about a $29250 cash price. Here we ae on Sat 2nd just after midday, CME markets will not reopen for another 27 hours, and Bitcoin is trading $31544 on Coinbase and has been as high as $33,300. Thats a 13.8% move while the markets have been closed over a long weekend!

A bit of alpha for you. There is a thing in Crypto called CME gaps. If you go through the charts you'll find that there has been only one "CME Gap" recently that hasn't been filled. Not saying the latest gaps will be filled. But History suggests.....

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@Lonhro yeap I know about that gap! Seems like a long long way away up here!

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The 24x7 of crypto vs the traditional 23x5 or even 16x5 of traditional futures markets is interesting and potentially a risk management problem if your trading futures. CME's Jan Bitcoin closed at $29385 on Thursday 31st which probably equates to about a $29250 cash price. Here we ae on Sat 2nd just after midday, CME markets will not reopen for another 27 hours, and Bitcoin is trading $31544 on Coinbase and has been as high as $33,300. Thats a 13.8% move while the markets have been closed over a long weekend!

Bitcoin traded $34,810 over night and we are still 8 hours away from US Futures markets opening. At current price 33905 we will be looking at an open of +15.3%

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The 24x7 nature of crypto is certainly attractive for trading. I would very much be interested in hearing of cost-effective ways of trading it with moderate leverage (you don't need much given the volatility). I have an account on kraken that I might toy with as an experiment.

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Guess that depends upon whether trading is your job or not. Since it is mine, I wish it was just 5x23 so I didn't have to worry about non-work days. On the other hand if your a part time trader having something good to trade on the weekends is probably nice.

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Yeah I echo that, 24x7 would be a very stressful first 1-2 years of setting things up. Even 23x5 takes a lot of effort. After the honeymoon phase you will start to see it as a job and that perk wears out.

I'm sure you've seen this image before. It really takes a convergence of passion, mission, profession and vocation for you to keep up doing something 24x7 or you'll burn out.



To me the most attractive part about crypto markets is the low barrier to entry. Other than that it feels to me like dedicating your whole life to trading only TSLA stock for 24x7.

The one thing missing from this image is what I call the concept of correlated learning. Even in electronic market making I feel somewhat tired because I am meeting the same type of people over and over again, and getting good at something that only a handful of people could appreciate. But at the very least my skills are recyclable if I am to throw in the towel one day and decide I wanted to work for a tech firm, a startup or really any financial institution. It's dubious if you can find that sort of meaning from acquiring crypto knowledge.

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Actually haven't seen that before. While I do understand the need and roll of speculators I'm not sure many of us bring much value to the world! Hence I believe I am lucky enough to reside in that bright green area between Passion and Profession.

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The 24x7 nature of crypto is certainly attractive for trading. I would very much be interested in hearing of cost-effective ways of trading it with moderate leverage (you don't need much given the volatility). I have an account on kraken that I might toy with as an experiment.

You shouldn't have to worry about fees too much if your not using alot of leverage. Unless your a scalper and use market orders alot!

Market order roundturn is about 0.08% on Binance Futures (This would be 0.40% with 5x leverage) on the first volume tier. But if you're aiming to catch 0.5-1%+ (2.5/5% with 5x leverage). It shouldn't matter too much.

A few of the futures exchanges even pay you to create liquidity (Limit orders).

Just be aware to familarize yourself with the concept of Funding with Cryptocurrency Perpetual Derivatives. These can work for you benefit.

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Guess that depends upon whether trading is your job or not. Since it is mine, I wish it was just 5x23 so I didn't have to worry about non-work days. On the other hand if your a part time trader having something good to trade on the weekends is probably nice.

This is one of the benefits of Crypto. Guys can hold down a job and still have a shot of building a trading career. Especially good for newcomers.

I even still have my full-time job now which I'm quitting next month to focus full time on my Prop trading career.

Weekends can have wild swings which is even better due to lower liquidity and Whales taking advantage.

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You shouldn't have to worry about fees too much if your not using alot of leverage. Unless your a scalper and use market orders alot!

I respectfully disagree. I'm not a "scalper." I prefer day trading mostly, with some swing trading. Fees are critically important.

Leverage, volatility, and fees (including bid/ask spread) are all critically important when evaluating trading opportunities IMO.

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