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Some of the big Wall street banks wrote a joint letter
they are afraid of the volatility and that casualties may be caused if futures trade on BTC
and they also express their concerns on the stability of the current BTC infrastructures
several people tried to sell BTC today and couldn't.. by the time they could the price dropped
10, 15, 20% ... imagine what that means in futures...

Will be interesting to see...

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But nothing official from the exchange saying its delayed?

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But nothing official from the exchange saying its delayed?

not yet
but the clearing houses are owned by the banks
and the banks are share holders in the exchanges

guess what will happen ?

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What would be the cost associated with holding a rolling contract on Bitcoin futures?
In comparison with holding actual Bitcoins?

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Spoke to the CBOE, and they did not mention any delay. Anything I don't know?

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Spoke to the CBOE, and they did not mention any delay. Anything I don't know?

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Thank you @mattz

That is probably the most valuable information

I didn't see any parameters yet, contract size ? tick value ?
expiry/calendar ?
did i miss that ?

I didn't see any updates in NT, Sierra, MultiCharts, TS for the instrument yet ?

In IQfeed these are the bitcoin symbols :

@BTCG18-@BTCH18 BITCOIN FUTURES FEB 18/MAR 18 CME SPREAD CME_GBX
@BTCG18 BITCOIN FUTURES FEBRUARY 2018 CME FUTURE CME_GBX
@BTCF18-@BTCG18 BITCOIN FUTURES JAN 18/FEB 18 CME SPREAD CME_GBX
@BTCF18-@BTCH18 BITCOIN FUTURES JAN 18/MAR 18 CME SPREAD CME_GBX
@BTCF18 BITCOIN FUTURES JANUARY 2018 CME FUTURE CME_GBX
@BTC# BITCOIN FUTURES MARCH 2018 CME FUTURE CME_GBX
@BTCH18 BITCOIN FUTURES MARCH 2018 CME FUTURE CME_GBX
BRTI.X CME CF BITCOIN REAL TIME INDEX CME INDEX CME
BRR.X CME CF BITCOIN REFERENCE RATE CME INDEX CME
XBTS.XO GEMINI 4 P.M. BITCOIN AUCTION PRICE CBOE INDEX CBOE
GXBT.XO GEMINI BITCOIN TRADE PRICE CBOE INDEX CBOE

no CBOE futures symbols yet..
am I missing something ?

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not yet
but the clearing houses are owned by the banks
and the banks are share holders in the exchanges

guess what will happen ?

There are banks that have FCM divisions. Not all FCMs owned by the banks.
Banks could be exchange members, you can not say conclusively they are shareholders.

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Thank you @mattz

That is probably the most valuable information

I didn't see any parameters yet, contract size ? tick value ?
expiry/calendar ?
did i miss that ?

I didn't see any updates in NT, Sierra, MultiCharts, TS for the instrument yet ?

In IQfeed these are the bitcoin symbols :

@BTCG18-@BTCH18 BITCOIN FUTURES FEB 18/MAR 18 CME SPREAD CME_GBX
@BTCG18 BITCOIN FUTURES FEBRUARY 2018 CME FUTURE CME_GBX
@BTCF18-@BTCG18 BITCOIN FUTURES JAN 18/FEB 18 CME SPREAD CME_GBX
@BTCF18-@BTCH18 BITCOIN FUTURES JAN 18/MAR 18 CME SPREAD CME_GBX
@BTCF18 BITCOIN FUTURES JANUARY 2018 CME FUTURE CME_GBX
@BTC# BITCOIN FUTURES MARCH 2018 CME FUTURE CME_GBX
@BTCH18 BITCOIN FUTURES MARCH 2018 CME FUTURE CME_GBX
BRTI.X CME CF BITCOIN REAL TIME INDEX CME INDEX CME
BRR.X CME CF BITCOIN REFERENCE RATE CME INDEX CME
XBTS.XO GEMINI 4 P.M. BITCOIN AUCTION PRICE CBOE INDEX CBOE
GXBT.XO GEMINI BITCOIN TRADE PRICE CBOE INDEX CBOE

no CBOE futures symbols yet..
am I missing something ?

Yes, but truly there has to be a new thread called "CBOW Bitcoin Futures"...anyway...

Yes, the symbol for CBOE is XBOT. the margin is 44% of the value of XBT.

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EXCHANGE SYSTEM UPDATES
Cboe Futures Exchange: Bitcoin (USD) Futures Launch
DECEMBER 10


Cboe Futures Exchange (CFE) plans to launch trading in Cboe Bitcoin (USD) (XBT) futures on December 10 for business date December 11.

The current CFE Gateway will support trading of Bitcoin futures.

Additional Resources
Eurex Circular 126/17 (huh, what? SMCJB)

CME: Launch of Bitcoin Futures
DECEMBER 18


CME has announced that it will launch Bitcoin futures for trading on December 17 for trade date December 18.

The current CME Gateway will support trading of Bitcoin futures.

Additional Resources
CME Bitcoin [AUTOLINK]Contract[/AUTOLINK] Specs

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I spawned a new thread for specific CBOE configuration issues

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