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CQG Q Trader

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Liquidate All is the button that flattens all your opened positions.

I don't think there is a flatten button just to flatten the position you have as displayed on the DOM. I think this is partly because CQG displays positions of individual legs on the DOM when you have a position of a synthetic spread opened, and allowing liquidating certain leg via DOM does not make much sense when you don't actually have an open position of that leg. There is also scenarios where the DOM displayed open positions when you actually exited the position through synthetic spread. Depends on different brokers, you might also get Open Position on the DOM for days if you executed your trades through your broker. I heard stories CQG took some blames of their functionalities because novice traders in prop shops always fat finger.

Liquidate ALL on the DOM is designed for absolute emergency. if you want to exit the market on particular DOM, Buy Market/Sell Market button on the DOM is potentially good enough. You may also liquidate the whole position of certian contract easily via your Order and Position page.

Keeping a open position on the DOM after you have closed it is a flaw in the program, if it exists. there should never, ever be any instance where position reporting does not reflect your actual positions in the market.

I have recently discovered a flaw in Qtrader with regards to a position in VX (VIX futures) exchange traded spreads that shows you still in a position where you may not actually be in one, depending on a certain setting. They know about it now and are looking into a fix apparently.

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grrr

Very frustrated with CQG now, they just called to inform that that the will NOT be implementing a flatten button on Qtrader anytime soon.

They are literally the only platform that I have ever seen without a flatten/close button on their DOM. There are a few clunky work arounds but none very pleasant to use. Do I actually have to switch back to CTS now that I cannot manage risk and close positions the way every single platform in the universe does? jeez...

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Opening Range


Hello, does anyone know how to draw opening range lines on Qtrader CVB bars? It's easy to do this on time based bars, but tricky on tick/volume based bars. I asked one of support gurus at CQG support, but he said it's impossible because CVB bars do not have time stamp. Maybe he truly does not know, or he's just not in the mood, but I know there got be a way to do it. I did some digging on the forum, and found a post by Okina that shows his rendering just a few days before he passed away. He even managed to show extensions and labels

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No, but if you look on Upwork.com there are a few coders that are familiar with CGQ, maybe you can hire someone there?

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I think a flatten button on the CQG DOM is a must have, but since it looks like I have been the only one asking for it, they don't seem to be bowled over by requests. If you feel that it is important, please add your thoughts here, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks - J

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Will do for sure


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CQG Trader has the X all Liq All functionality. Check if you can login with the same credentials and see if you can run side by side.

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CQG Trader has the X all Liq All functionality. Check if you can login with the same credentials and see if you can run side by side.

Matt Z
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Sorry, how would this help?

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Just to be clear, the functionality that most DOMs have with regards to a Flatten or Close button is that you can close the current position on the current DOM, and also cancel any and all related orders for that position with a single click.

CQG has 2 variables on this idea : a liquidate dropdown menu option, which does not close associated open orders, and the X all/Liq all button which closes everything in your account and cancels all orders in your account.

In the case of the liquidate feature, you need to right click your position, then select liquidate from a dropdown menu, then cancel open orders manually, and the cancel buttons are on the bottom of the dom, not on top where liquidate is so its a very clumsy process, and leaves you exposed with open orders until you can manually cancel them. In a fast moving market, like on CL report wednesdays, these open orders can fill before you can manually cancel them, putting you in a position that you had not intended to be in, and now without stops which again need to be manually place. It's a mess

In the case of the X all/Liq all button, this closes everything in your account, so it is only possible to use it in the intended manner if you have no other open positions. If you have other open positions, using this will close and cancel everything at the same time, and since I and many traders have multiple open positions at one time, this is not a good solution.

All I am asking is that CQG makes a button to liquidate the current position on the current dom, and X ALL orders at the same time. this is a much cleaner, simpler, lower risk way to do things, which is why 20 other platforms have this feature.

I'm sure that brokers such as Mattz can understand the need for this simple feature that exists on every other platform, but CQG (they even are putting it on their Mobile platform, but not Trader, Qtrader or IC) says that no one has requested it from them, I'm the only one. Hard to imagine, but if you guys agree that this is needed, please tell them and they will likely do it. Cheers - J

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Sorry, how would this help?

You will have access to a DOM that does have the functionality you want and access to the same account.

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