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Anyone based in Europe using CQG IC through a US broker?

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@yshterk. what part of CQG is the server side aggregation feature? is it advanced trading or is it spreader?

thanks.

If you want to aggregate outright instruments and exchange traded strategies - advanced trading is enough. If you want to spread aggregated markets - you need to have a spreader.

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so without spreader i cannot take opposite directions on say cbot t note and elx t note. or say mar and jun t note. is that correct?

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maxima View Post
so without spreader i cannot take opposite directions on say cbot t note and elx t note. or say mar and jun t note. is that correct?

Yes, this is correct. If you want to aggregate CBOT and ELX treasuries and trade them as combined liquidity pool - you should use aggregator. If you want to spread ELX against CBOT - you will need CQG Spreader. If you want to spread lets say cash treasuries (BTec or BGC) against combined pool of treasury futures of CBOT + ELX - you should use CQG Spreader too.

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I trade Eurex products using TT at the moment but have a delay between orders being sent/processed/appearing on the DOM that I feel is a little too long. I was advised by TT support it was down to the location of my brokers servers (I have a solid internet connection). My broker has suggested switching to CQG.

I was interested to know if there are any traders in Europe also trading Eurex (Bund/FESX) clearing through a US broker who could share their opinions on CQG's speed vs TT. Specifically, the delay from clicking on the DOM ladder to order being added/removed from the book and keeping up during fast markets. Also, if anyone has experience of using CQG with both a US broker and with a European based broker.

Many thanks

A bit late to this thread, but here you go:

I am trading FDAX through Velocity using CQG Trader. I cannot compare it to TT because Velocity is having issues with the Eurex feed on TT, so i had to switch to CQG. CQG support moved my account to london for latency reasons. Orders are processed extremely fast (for me it is not humanly possible to even see the lag of clicking the dom and the order working on the exchange). Order processing once it gets to the CQG Server is ~0.04 seconds (the software shows you exactly when what happened, and latency to the CQG server is not included obviously).

Hope i contributed something, happy trading!

EDIT: since you are located in london, you will have very low latency to the european CQG servers.
the european order routing server is europe.cqgtrader.com if you want to ping it

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Im getting 2 ms ping to that server but still can see the delay when clicking on the DOM for Stoxx 50. Its not huge and much better than it was with previous set ups so all good.

I havnt used my Velocity account for a while for that very reason. Had a friend got stuck in a few bunds a week or so ago when their Eurex connection went down! He couldnt get an answer when he tried to call them (was probable 4-5am Chicago time). Luckily for him the market had moved in his favour when it came back a little later but I think the lesson is 2 FCM's or 1 FCM+Spreadbetting a/c minimum.

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Londres View Post
Had a friend got stuck in a few bunds a week or so ago when their Eurex connection went down! He couldnt get an answer when he tried to call them (was probable 4-5am Chicago time). Luckily for him the market had moved in his favour when it came back a little later but ...

... I think the lesson is 2 FCM's or 1 FCM+Spreadbetting a/c minimum.

That might be a problematic workaround / give a false sense of security.


Eurex connections go down from time to time (perhaps once in 3 months; may have nothing to do with the provider).

In my view there are safer solutions (work also if Eurex completely down):
- Use less leverage
- Offset Eurex bonds with US bonds (e.g. ZN..., a bit tricky of course)
- Offset bonds with (european) bond tracking ETFs

Workaround 2 & 3 need a bit of preparation in advance. Need to know how many contracts have to be bought/sold before feed goes down and perhaps even prepare the appropriate orders so that they can be fired in case.

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Measure CQG Latency

Hello,

currently i'm searching for a VPS in the UK to reduce latency. Currently i'm using NT which can't used for measuring latency at all. I've read that CQG Trader (free, isn't it?) have build in functions to measure data feed latency and execution round turn time.

1. Is that true and where are these functions in the menu structure (Screenshot would be great)?
2. Perhaps somebody from the UK can share their latency values.
3. Can anybody recommend a good hoster / VPS firm in the near of London?

Currently i can only use PING times to the Gateway, which isn't much reliable. I've asked CNS for their ping times: Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 5ms, Average = 3ms - quite good so far.

Thanks Koepisch

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