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CQG vs CQG through ninjatrader???

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Agreed. I can't justify the cost either, although, this would be 'optimal' from my perspective.


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Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I've only used the $25 package as a back-up.

It's hard to beat the X_Trader DOM, though. Add CQG IC for charting, and you got the ideal setup for intraday discretionary trading (imo). If you can stomach the $4000 a month, that is... (I can't)


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Can you list a few examples?

I'm using Sierra Chart DOM in combination with MultiCharts charting, and a little SC charting (for CDV). I really like their DOM for the most part, it lets me do what I want.

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Just to name a few, one of my favorite features of the DOMTrader is that you can have a study's value appear in the DOM ladder. This may not be a big deal for most but for my trading method, it's a big help. If you're trading more than one market, the DOM ladder has tabs at the top of the window that allow you to easily toggle between them. I guess your OE preference should really just come down to what you're looking to accomplish.

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Can you list a few examples?

I'm using Sierra Chart DOM in combination with MultiCharts charting, and a little SC charting (for CDV). I really like their DOM for the most part, it lets me do what I want.

Mike

The Sierra DOM is pretty similar to NT, I like the ATM function.

My favorite Smart Order would probably be the Quantity Triggered Stop Orders. It allows you to set a threshold for the order queue level to execute the stop. This avoids getting stopped out if the level is not traded through (depending on your threshold value).

http://www.cqg.com/Docs/SmartOrders.pdf

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The Sierra DOM is pretty similar to NT, I like the ATM function.

My favorite Smart Order would probably be the Quantity Triggered Stop Orders. It allows you to set a threshold for the order queue level to execute the stop. This avoids getting stopped out if the level is not traded through (depending on your threshold value).

http://www.cqg.com/Docs/SmartOrders.pdf

Interesting, I could see value in that. Can it hold the order until the depth is less than 'x' (risk of offer moving against you) and then submit? It seems this would have the advantage of saving you a tick.

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Interesting, I could see value in that. Can it hold the order until the depth is less than 'x' (risk of offer moving against you) and then submit? It seems this would have the advantage of saving you a tick.

Mike

That's what it does. Let's say you're long and have a stop at X. You can set the stop to trigger if the bid level quantity at X falls below a fixed amount. You can also use this function with trailing stops, which can be very useful.

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Hi,

For me, stability stands alone. I use what I use, first and foremost, because it has proven itself in that space. Now, stability aside, speedy data is of much less use if the software of which you use it with, can't paint it with speed to match. I don't wish to disclose how I trade on an open forum, but I can assure you, timely chart data is of use to many traders, and certainly it is of use to me. In the end, it's the end-user's decision what suits them best.


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@zer0,

I am interested in how you trade to see the big differences you are talking about. I have only traded with NT, TS, SC and agree that SC is the most stable of those 3, but boy is it a pain to work with. TS is the most user-friendly, but slow and NT is the middle for me.

Never even heard of CQG, but will check it out. Seems interesting. I just look at how I trade and it would only impact me in very fast moving markets of which I tend to stay out. Very curious on how you trade to where it makes a substantial difference. I find that enlightening.


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The Sierra DOM is pretty similar to NT, I like the ATM function.

My favorite Smart Order would probably be the Quantity Triggered Stop Orders. It allows you to set a threshold for the order queue level to execute the stop. This avoids getting stopped out if the level is not traded through (depending on your threshold value).

http://www.cqg.com/Docs/SmartOrders.pdf

Ninja Trader has that too.

ref: NinjaTrader Version 7

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