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I trade CL. I would like to track and possibly trade others with high volatility.

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 Hammerhorn 
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you will love gold, silver

How is the slippage/fill in SI, I have not had time to investigate SI, but have always wanted to trade it.

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nemeis45
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well the liquidity is definitely below NYMEX WTI, even more in silver when compared to gold
but they are pretty volatile which should make up for it.

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 mannya 
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Thanks to everyone for their input.

Very, Very helpful.

TF and gold have been added to my watch list.

I will look at the others also.

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I recently left CL to trade for awhile on GC.

While trading crude, I noticed an automated strategy I was sim testing was doing well on gold. It is a volatility breakout signal.

After many months of watching it, I noticed gold trends in channels nicely and then has great volatility breakouts.
It seems to trade like a currency and then take off in big moves to another place.

SO for a breakout/scalp thing I do, GC works better for me than CL. Even though the system was developed on CL.

I run it on auto for the crude now , and do GC discretionary.

shane

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I would echo the sentiments that TF and FDAX are worth considering alongside CL.

For me GC, SI & NG are not quite similar, although NG is the closest.

I find the currencies lack volatility intraday (say 5min timeframe). They behave as different products to CL/TF/FDAX.

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just started trading CL and GC, they're great instruments, nice fast moves, love the runs to support on the way down, really nice follow thru

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 freestyler 
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Hi: Just started trading CL recently, after years of trading forex. Love the volatility. I noticed CL's overall volume is lower than that of forex. I'm currently just daytrading 1 or 2 lots at a time (average hold time is about 10 min). Wondering what is the maximum lot size CL can handle during floor hours (ie. being able to open/close trades without my orders being broken up and incurring additional slippage). Any thoughts?

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Hi: Just started trading CL recently, after years of trading forex. Love the volatility. I noticed CL's overall volume is lower than that of forex. I'm currently just daytrading 1 or 2 lots at a time (average hold time is about 10 min). Wondering what is the maximum lot size CL can handle during floor hours (ie. being able to open/close trades without my orders being broken up and incurring additional slippage). Any thoughts?

14 lots read this https://www.fca.org.uk/static/documents/final-notices/coscia-appendix-1a.pdf

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Hi: Just started trading CL recently, after years of trading forex. Love the volatility. I noticed CL's overall volume is lower than that of forex. I'm currently just daytrading 1 or 2 lots at a time (average hold time is about 10 min). Wondering what is the maximum lot size CL can handle during floor hours (ie. being able to open/close trades without my orders being broken up and incurring additional slippage). Any thoughts?

I once traded over 12 car live on CL for a session just for the heck of it. (worst I've done is on the 6E).
It starts slipping or splitting over 8-10 contracts I recalled. i.e. some of the contracts were slipped over by a tick, or split up etc. , if Ninja's trade marking is authoritative enough on a live account. Probably dependent on volume and activity at
any given time too.

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You can trade the following: CL, ES, EUR, NQ, YM, and GC

And, I have traded all of them, but settled down to just the ES and CL.

Hope that helps

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