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Thank you all for your answers.

Has anyone had an experience with any of these:

https://www.topsteptrader.com/

https://mescapitalgroup.com/

https://proptraders.biz/


Hi Rachel - if you search the threads on this forum you will see that there are reviews for the top two on your list.

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Hi Rachel,

My own impression is very much that the other two you mention are "pale imitations" (with a number of question-marks over them, too) but very large numbers of members here have experience with TopStepTrader, and there are several TST-funded traders posting here regularly (and there are a number of TST webinar videos listed here, as well).

This thread, in particular, will doubtless interest you: https://futures.io/vendors-product-reviews/25776-topsteptrader-s-michael-patak-president-ask-me-anything-ask-me-anything.html

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Attention, colleagues! proptraders.biz is SCAM!!! In russian trading segment people are already going to sue them! Be careful! Founders of the scam are preparing new so called "prop shop". If You will meet people in internet forums with nicknames "shtarkman" (former TST trader) or dengaz (same) be cautious, they are scammers.

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Thank you all for your answers.

Has anyone had an experience with any of these:

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Rachel View Post
Thank you all for your answers.

Has anyone had an experience with any of these:

https://www.topsteptrader.com/

https://mescapitalgroup.com/

https://proptraders.biz/

Rachel,

Most of those companies are scam. If you want to manage real money, you have to start with your own money for a while and be consistently different than other traders and hedge funds.

I'd say if you manage to do 15%+ of performance per year, while never losing more than 8-9% for 2-3 years, and that you're working with a serious broker (e.g. non-retail broker regulated in the US or in the UK, forget about Cyprus, Malta and all this stuff), you'd probably get 500k - 1m to manage.

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Also, nobody in their right mind will give you money based on "demo" money. That just doesn't exist. If someone tells you this then he is a scammer. I've managed books of over 500m$ of risk and I can tell you nobody would ever take "demo" money as serious.

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