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Market Wizard
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RB - HO spread

At this time of the year I like buying the RB - HO (Gasoline minus Heating Oil) spread.

Seasonals, according to MRCI, are consistently positive until early January.

Currently, COT data for RB is slightly more bullisch than for HO.

El Nino should take care for a warmer winter in the north of the US. This results in less consumption of heating oil and more consumption of gasoline.

The spread RBZ-HOZ has come back intraday to -15. I intend to buy further spreads in the next couple of days. (I hold half of my usual lot size since middle of September.)

I would be interested in the opinion of the energy traders here.

Thanks a lot !

Best regards, Myrrdin

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Hows this spread working out for u? Btw whats the initial margin with RJO on this? so i can compare to IB.. i think IB maybe high
J

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Hows this spread working out for u? Btw whats the initial margin with RJO on this? so i can compare to IB.. i think IB maybe high
J

I exited the spread recently - was my most profitable single trade in 2015.

RJO charges minimum margins as requested by the exchange. You find these minimum margins at the CME site:

Clearing

Click clearing --> Outrights or Intras or Inters. (outright futures, calendar spreads, inter-product spreads)

Margin for RBH: $4900
Margin for HOH: $5200

You get a spread discount of 71 %.

Resulting margin for the spread: $2929.

Best regards, Myrrdin

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