NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





The CL Crude-analysis Thread


Discussion in Commodities

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one SMCJB with 683 posts (1,274 thanks)
    2. looks_two mfbreakout with 303 posts (479 thanks)
    3. looks_3 WilleeMac with 275 posts (218 thanks)
    4. looks_4 ron99 with 165 posts (262 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one SMCJB with 1.9 thanks per post
    2. looks_two mfbreakout with 1.6 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 ron99 with 1.6 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 WilleeMac with 0.8 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 614,783 views
    2. thumb_up 3,558 thanks given
    3. group 286 followers
    1. forum 2,696 posts
    2. attach_file 644 attachments




 
Search this Thread

The CL Crude-analysis Thread

  #2171 (permalink)
 jokertrader 
NYC, NY
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Sierra, TT
Broker: N/A
Trading: Spread Researcher and crypto degen
Posts: 654 since May 2013
Thanks Given: 545
Thanks Received: 360

To trade a fly in terms of the calendar would be
- To buy the Z1/Z2/Z3 fly, I would buy the Z1/Z2 calendar and Sell the Z2/Z3 calendar
- To sell the Z1/Z2/Z3 fly, I would sell the Z1/Z2 calendar and buy the Z2/Z3 calendar
Right?

So in reality, looking at the DOM right now,
the Z1/Z2 has a bid of 1.36 and an Ask of 1.60
the Z2/Z3 has a bid of 0.60 and an Ask of 0.73

So if i am selling the Z1/Z2/Z3
Sell the Z1/Z2 at the bid of 1.36 and buy the Z2/Z3 at Ask of 0.73, puts me at 0.63 cents or work the legs in the middle???
I know a pretty basic question but want to know if the data i am collecting and the way i am able to trade will actually match

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
Pivot Indicator like the old SwingTemp by Big Mike
NinjaTrader
Exit Strategy
NinjaTrader
NT7 Indicator Script Troubleshooting - Camarilla Pivots
NinjaTrader
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
Better Renko Gaps
The Elite Circle
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on NexusFi
Spoo-nalysis ES e-mini futures S&P 500
34 thanks
Just another trading journal: PA, Wyckoff & Trends
28 thanks
Tao te Trade: way of the WLD
23 thanks
Bigger Wins or Fewer Losses?
23 thanks
GFIs1 1 DAX trade per day journal
21 thanks
  #2172 (permalink)
 
SMCJB's Avatar
 SMCJB 
Houston TX
Legendary Market Wizard
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: TT and Stellar
Broker: Advantage Futures
Trading: Primarily Energy but also a little Equities, Fixed Income, Metals and Crypto.
Frequency: Many times daily
Duration: Never
Posts: 5,049 since Dec 2013
Thanks Given: 4,386
Thanks Received: 10,207


SMCJB View Post
Interestingly, despite the back end strength, the rig count seems to have stalled being up only a few rigs since the end of May versus +110 in first five months of year.

Rig count was down 9 on Friday, back to 860, Nay 25th was 259 so we've gained 1 rig in the last 3 months. In addition the COT non-commercial net long dropped considerably last week (34k) and is now at its lowest level since mid November last year.


jokertrader View Post
To trade a fly in terms of the calendar would be
- To buy the Z1/Z2/Z3 fly, I would buy the Z1/Z2 calendar and Sell the Z2/Z3 calendar
- To sell the Z1/Z2/Z3 fly, I would sell the Z1/Z2 calendar and buy the Z2/Z3 calendar
Right?

So in reality, looking at the DOM right now,
the Z1/Z2 has a bid of 1.36 and an Ask of 1.60
the Z2/Z3 has a bid of 0.60 and an Ask of 0.73

So if i am selling the Z1/Z2/Z3
Sell the Z1/Z2 at the bid of 1.36 and buy the Z2/Z3 at Ask of 0.73

Monday 11:06 Eastern. 140/144 and 75/83 so 57/69

jokertrader View Post
puts me at 0.63 cents or work the legs in the middle???

I use an autospreader. So if I was a 65 seller, the autospreader would offer z1z2 @ 134 and join the z2xz3 bid at 75.
I'd be careful putting legs down past z0/z1

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #2173 (permalink)
 
SMCJB's Avatar
 SMCJB 
Houston TX
Legendary Market Wizard
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: TT and Stellar
Broker: Advantage Futures
Trading: Primarily Energy but also a little Equities, Fixed Income, Metals and Crypto.
Frequency: Many times daily
Duration: Never
Posts: 5,049 since Dec 2013
Thanks Given: 4,386
Thanks Received: 10,207


Piece by John Kemp talking about the issues in the Permian Basin putting a cap on US production...

U.S. oil boom starts to cool, tightening global market
https://www.reuters.com/?edition-redirect=af

The biggest problem is the lack of sufficient pipeline capacity to move oil from shale wells ... But production in the Permian Basin has also been constrained by shortages of labour, equipment and materials, which have pushed drilling, pressure pumping and completion costs sharply higher ... Midland crude is currently trading at discount of $14 per barrel compared with Cushing, while Cushing is itself priced at a further discount of $10 to Brent.

Reply With Quote
  #2174 (permalink)
 Futuresnoob 
San Antonio Texas
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Sierra Charts, TOS
Broker: Edge Clear, Rithmic
Trading: ES and Treasury Spreads
Posts: 102 since Nov 2016
Thanks Given: 50
Thanks Received: 55

We are dealing with this very issue. We are doing joint ventures to get our west Texas oil to the coast.

Sent using the NexusFi mobile app

Reply With Quote
  #2175 (permalink)
 
ElChacal's Avatar
 ElChacal 
Houston, TX
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader TWS Barchart
Broker: IB / IB
Trading: SPY, QQQ
Posts: 418 since Nov 2014
Thanks Given: 473
Thanks Received: 278


SMCJB View Post
In addition the COT non-commercial net long dropped considerably last week (34k) and is now at its lowest level since mid November last year.

Open Interest seems to be in a sharp decline since May... I am thinking on buying a couple of USO Puts, hopefully have vega help my case with an increase on implied volatility. This shall balance my long SPY calls. I guess we'll see on Monday.

Update: I am taking back what I said on the trading position, not because I am not short biased but I have never really backtested this trade.

Reply With Quote
  #2176 (permalink)
 
SMCJB's Avatar
 SMCJB 
Houston TX
Legendary Market Wizard
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: TT and Stellar
Broker: Advantage Futures
Trading: Primarily Energy but also a little Equities, Fixed Income, Metals and Crypto.
Frequency: Many times daily
Duration: Never
Posts: 5,049 since Dec 2013
Thanks Given: 4,386
Thanks Received: 10,207

A surprisingly non-bullish interview with Art Berman over at MacroVoices

https://www.macrovoices.com/

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #2177 (permalink)
Ozquant
Brisbane Queensland Australia
 
Posts: 220 since Aug 2017
Thanks Given: 167
Thanks Received: 380

Interesting correlation between front month to following month spread against CL actual . Might be nothing but i love finding these types of anomalies



Spec commitment also worth watching at multi decade extremes over 2018




Plenty to be made in both directions of course but i do think we are at a point where upside limited for rest of year into next year

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #2178 (permalink)
 
ElChacal's Avatar
 ElChacal 
Houston, TX
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader TWS Barchart
Broker: IB / IB
Trading: SPY, QQQ
Posts: 418 since Nov 2014
Thanks Given: 473
Thanks Received: 278


Ozquant View Post
Interesting correlation between front month to following month spread against CL actual . Might be nothing but i love finding these types of


Very interesting, what platform are you using?
Thanks.




Sent using the NexusFi mobile app

Reply With Quote
  #2179 (permalink)
 
tturner86's Avatar
 tturner86 
Portland, Oregon
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: F-16CM-40
Trading: GBU-39
Posts: 6,191 since Sep 2013
Thanks Given: 10,459
Thanks Received: 12,695

Guys I finally did it. I got a webinar scheduled that will have some focus on trading CL. It has only taken 2 years lol.


Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #2180 (permalink)
 
SMCJB's Avatar
 SMCJB 
Houston TX
Legendary Market Wizard
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: TT and Stellar
Broker: Advantage Futures
Trading: Primarily Energy but also a little Equities, Fixed Income, Metals and Crypto.
Frequency: Many times daily
Duration: Never
Posts: 5,049 since Dec 2013
Thanks Given: 4,386
Thanks Received: 10,207



Reply With Quote




Last Updated on March 23, 2024


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts