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What does he mean by volatility products?

You can trade oil volatility with options/futures......?

Apols if misunderstood.

Probably means OVX.
Maybe not important but I believe OVX is based upon the ETF USO's options and not CL options.

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Probably means OVX.
Maybe not important but I believe OVX is based upon the ETF USO's options and not CL options.

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There might be some exploitable edge tracking OVX but only for HFT. To the human eye they are effectively lockstep.


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@Redhouse not sure I understand. What is OVX effectively lockstep with?

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Big 2 day move...

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But what's interesting to me is how the spreads changed...

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So in $6 move, all the front month spreads where virtually unchanged, while spreads 6 months down the curve moved 20c!

This creates the situation that in a $6 move, the front 7 butteflies declined!

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They frequently discuss OVX on Volatility Views. I don't think there is a "volatility product" based on it.

In the volatility trading space, "volatility products" usually refers to VIX options, VX futures, and the ETFs and ETNs.

I took that as an ironic comment.

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They frequently discuss OVX on Volatility Views. I don't think there is a "volatility product" based on it.

In the volatility trading space, "volatility products" usually refers to VIX options, VX futures, and the ETFs and ETNs.

I took that as an ironic comment.

The CBOE used to list a futures contract, "OV" I believe, that was based upon the OVX but I believe they discontinued it as it didn't trade.

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I could be wrong but somebody is trading (??) OVX

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