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Whats better to scalp? S&P or Crude (Emini's)?

I have had some success scalping /es. I still have not taken the plunge into full time trader status (I have had several years trading stocks/options before my current poker career. So even though I am new to futures, I'm not new to trading). I have been scalping 1 and 2 lots for 1-2 ticks. Slowly sliding back into my trading career. Soon as I thought I have had my plan all figured out... I read an article on Future mags web site today. It was about HFT's (my biggest fear of scalping bigger). Part of the article talks about how scalping oil is easier, and that there is less fear of HFT's. Anyone have any input on which product is more conducive to scalpers...AS WELL AS if HFT's are less of an issue in crude? I would think that the /es is more liquid. BUT, crude is still a VERY liquid product, and if there is less issue's with HFT's than in the S&P, then crude looks like a better place to scalp. Thoughts? Thank you for everyone's input.

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I have had some success scalping /es. I still have not taken the plunge into full time trader status (I have had several years trading stocks/options before my current poker career. So even though I am new to futures, I'm not new to trading). I have been scalping 1 and 2 lots for 1-2 ticks. Slowly sliding back into my trading career. Soon as I thought I have had my plan all figured out... I read an article on Future mags web site today. It was about HFT's (my biggest fear of scalping bigger). Part of the article talks about how scalping oil is easier, and that there is less fear of HFT's. Anyone have any input on which product is more conducive to scalpers...AS WELL AS if HFT's are less of an issue in crude? I would think that the /es is more liquid. BUT, crude is still a VERY liquid product, and if there is less issue's with HFT's than in the S&P, then crude looks like a better place to scalp. Thoughts? Thank you for everyone's input.

Ok, being afraid of HFT's is pure ignorance. I actually like HFT's because you can learn to understand and sometimes track them, I recommend you read any and all books about HFT's instead of having an irrational phobia of them. HFT's in stocks and futures also differ due to the different way that stocks and futures trade on their respective exchanges. E.g. Stocks have a wider variety of order types and ability to trade on multiple different exchanges (e.g. NYSE, ARCA)

Trading has always been the same and always different/changing.

Learn more about the rules of futures trading, for the E-mini S&P 500 there is a ton of information on the CME group website.

E-mini S&P 500 (ES) Vs Crude Oil (CL)

ES is volatile and extremely liquid, it's a very thick market. You have to understand the implications of this, to even begin scalping it.

CL is volatile and a thin market, this doesn't mean it doesn't trade a lot of contracts in a day, it means that each price level has a low amount of liquidity when compared to the ES.

Which is best for you is down to your personality and style, given the above. It depends what tools you are using to trade too.

Have a look at the TF, similar to CL, it's a thin market and with lots of momentum, that is if you'd prefer stick to stock indices due to your stocks background.


All the best with your scalping,
Turismo

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