CL Crude-nalysis - Commodities Futures Trading | futures io social day trading
futures io futures trading


CL Crude-nalysis
Updated: Views / Replies:21,084 / 227
Created: by indextrader7 Attachments:46

Welcome to futures io.

(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)

futures io is the largest futures trading community on the planet, with over 90,000 members. At futures io, our goal has always been and always will be to create a friendly, positive, forward-thinking community where members can openly share and discuss everything the world of trading has to offer. The community is one of the friendliest you will find on any subject, with members going out of their way to help others. Some of the primary differences between futures io and other trading sites revolve around the standards of our community. Those standards include a code of conduct for our members, as well as extremely high standards that govern which partners we do business with, and which products or services we recommend to our members.

At futures io, our focus is on quality education. No hype, gimmicks, or secret sauce. The truth is: trading is hard. To succeed, you need to surround yourself with the right support system, educational content, and trading mentors Ė all of which you can find on futures io, utilizing our social trading environment.

With futures io, you can find honest trading reviews on brokers, trading rooms, indicator packages, trading strategies, and much more. Our trading review process is highly moderated to ensure that only genuine users are allowed, so you donít need to worry about fake reviews.

We are fundamentally different than most other trading sites:
  • We are here to help. Just let us know what you need.
  • We work extremely hard to keep things positive in our community.
  • We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts.
  • We firmly believe in and encourage sharing. The holy grail is within you, we can help you find it.
  • We expect our members to participate and become a part of the community. Help yourself by helping others.

You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community.  It's free and simple.

-- Big Mike, Site Administrator

Closed Thread
 46  
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 

CL Crude-nalysis

  #101 (permalink)
Elite Member
London UK
 
Futures Experience: Master
Platform: Sierra, NinjaTrader, Interactive Brokers, TradeStation
Favorite Futures: several
 
Posts: 18 since Sep 2014
Thanks: 5 given, 6 received


Oysteryx View Post
Must say you write arrogantly for being anonymous and uninformed about who you are interacting with. At least introduce yourself before patronizing strangers. Already gave you a date and time frame. ISIS breakout.

Done.

one example doth not a tendency make ...

please tell us the date (just to be precise), the exact time of that day, and the precise bar characteristics you were using when you perceived a "violent" breakout.

Your perception of arrogance and patronisation is just your perception, not a reality.

kind regards oceanbreeze

 
  #102 (permalink)
Elite Member
New York, NY
 
Futures Experience: Master
Platform: Various
Favorite Futures: Everything that moves
 
Oysteryx's Avatar
 
Posts: 217 since Feb 2014
Thanks: 340 given, 462 received

Introduce yourself first. Give some background. Otherwise my conversation with you is done, and you may interact with others. You wrote you are participating in a forum actively for the first time. This is basic online forum politesse.

 
  #103 (permalink)
Membership Temporarily Revoked
Birmingham, AL
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra
Broker/Data: several
Favorite Futures: several
 
Posts: 1,065 since Apr 2012
Thanks: 713 given, 2,758 received


Easy guys. This isn't the place for quibbling. Take it to PM or keep it market related please.

The following 4 users say Thank You to indextrader7 for this post:
 
  #104 (permalink)
Membership Temporarily Revoked
Birmingham, AL
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra
Broker/Data: several
Favorite Futures: several
 
Posts: 1,065 since Apr 2012
Thanks: 713 given, 2,758 received


PandaWarrior View Post
Please register on futures.io to view futures trading content such as post attachment(s), image(s), and screenshot(s).

Nice trade today Brian. My only trade today was the same one except I didn't trade until pit open. Well done.

Looks like she wants to complete this bear move down to 90 area I've been talking about at nauseum.

The following 2 users say Thank You to indextrader7 for this post:
 
  #105 (permalink)
Elite Member
London UK
 
Futures Experience: Master
Platform: Sierra, NinjaTrader, Interactive Brokers, TradeStation
Favorite Futures: several
 
Posts: 18 since Sep 2014
Thanks: 5 given, 6 received


indextrader7 View Post
Easy guys. This isn't the place for quibbling. Take it to PM or keep it market related please.

This forum is good natured and full of thoughtful experiences.
Thanks for starting CL Crude-nalysis.
I was just trying to get precise examples of a market event perceived to be a "violent" breakout.

Does anyone feel more surprised by CL moves than moves in other markets?
What are the bar characteristics when these surprises occur?
Compared to other markets, where would you put CL on a surprising, pernicious move scale?
If people have examples, others can decide if they would also have been surprised by the market event, whether they would have been in the market, whether the move would have been bad or good given their position.
I realise this is a forum using real chart examples.
Real chart examples would be great.
If historical charts would be out of place, I shall patiently await fresh charts of surprises.
Simple and substantial.

 
  #106 (permalink)
Membership Temporarily Revoked
Birmingham, AL
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra
Broker/Data: several
Favorite Futures: several
 
Posts: 1,065 since Apr 2012
Thanks: 713 given, 2,758 received


oceanbreeze View Post
This forum is good natured and full of thoughtful experiences.
Thanks for starting CL Crude-nalysis.
I was just trying to get precise examples of a market event perceived to be a "violent" breakout.

Does anyone feel more surprised by CL moves than moves in other markets?
What are the bar characteristics when these surprises occur?
Compared to other markets, where would you put CL on a surprising, pernicious move scale?
If people have examples, others can decide if they would also have been surprised by the market event, whether they would have been in the market, whether the move would have been bad or good given their position.
I realise this is a forum using real chart examples.
Real chart examples would be great.
If historical charts would be out of place, I shall patiently await fresh charts of surprises.
Simple and substantial.

Likely not the answer you're looking for, but....

I believe you may be asking a pointless question. Let me explain:

There will be times where I see a move and even a likely stop hunt before that move. This move will not "surprise" me as you ask, but may "surprise" others. The opposite is also true where I will be surprised, confused, and downright pissed while others are not surprised at all and saw the move coming.

I hope you see what I'm driving at here. We all develop our own ways of seeing and anticipating market moves. I am no more "surprised" by anything that happens in CL than I am the slowest market I know of such as ZN.

All the best.

The following 2 users say Thank You to indextrader7 for this post:
 
  #107 (permalink)
Elite Member
New York, NY
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Sierra Chart, thinkorswim
Broker/Data: Amp-Rithmic/TT, IB
Favorite Futures: CL, GC, NQ
 
Posts: 569 since Nov 2010
Thanks: 1,797 given, 249 received


oceanbreeze View Post
This forum is good natured and full of thoughtful experiences.
Thanks for starting CL Crude-nalysis.
I was just trying to get precise examples of a market event perceived to be a "violent" breakout.

Does anyone feel more surprised by CL moves than moves in other markets?
What are the bar characteristics when these surprises occur?
Compared to other markets, where would you put CL on a surprising, pernicious move scale?
If people have examples, others can decide if they would also have been surprised by the market event, whether they would have been in the market, whether the move would have been bad or good given their position.
I realise this is a forum using real chart examples.
Real chart examples would be great.
If historical charts would be out of place, I shall patiently await fresh charts of surprises.
Simple and substantial.

The best way to answer these questions would be to start watching it yourself IMO. Anyone else's experience will be highly subjective, as indextrader said. I trade CL, and love how it trades, it is my favorite market compared to others due to how it trends, the speed at which it moves away from levels, etc.

The following user says Thank You to Futures Operator for this post:
 
  #108 (permalink)
Elite Member
London UK
 
Futures Experience: Master
Platform: Sierra, NinjaTrader, Interactive Brokers, TradeStation
Favorite Futures: several
 
Posts: 18 since Sep 2014
Thanks: 5 given, 6 received


indextrader7 View Post
Likely not the answer you're looking for, but....

I believe you may be asking a pointless question. Let me explain:

There will be times where I see a move and even a likely stop hunt before that move. This move will not "surprise" me as you ask, but may "surprise" others. The opposite is also true where I will be surprised, confused, and downright pissed while others are not surprised at all and saw the move coming.

I hope you see what I'm driving at here. We all develop our own ways of seeing and anticipating market moves. I am no more "surprised" by anything that happens in CL than I am the slowest market I know of such as ZN.

All the best.

That is the answer I am looking for . . .
I agree with you, except about the pointless bit!

I am no more "surprised" by anything that happens in CL than I am the slowest market I know of such as ZN. Given that, I just wanted to hear from the other poster what I may be missing.

I don't think it's a pointless question because an exchange between you and another may be very helpful to you in the future, when you were surprised by a market event and the other wasn't. If you were surprised you may not be aware of how to see that sort of surprise coming next time. You may not know what you missed or what others knew that keep them out of trouble. Sure, you may figure it out, but some thoughts from people who avoided the event may be very helpful.

So if the unsurprised trader tells you why or how he or she saw it coming, or wasn't and never would be in the market in that situation, if the trader tells you that, you will have learned something that may be very useful to you in the future.

I think that sort of exchange is at least as valuable as sharing good trades.

We all develop our own ways of seeing and anticipating market moves. . . . and we all improve our own ways of seeing and anticipating market moves perhaps more through our "bad" trades than our "good" trades.

The following 2 users say Thank You to oceanbreeze for this post:
 
  #109 (permalink)
Elite Member
Adelaide Australia
 
Futures Experience: None
Platform: NT
Favorite Futures: ES CL
 
Brutus's Avatar
 
Posts: 99 since Jun 2010
Thanks: 774 given, 87 received


oceanbreeze View Post
This forum is good natured and full of thoughtful experiences.
Thanks for starting CL Crude-nalysis.
I was just trying to get precise examples of a market event perceived to be a "violent" breakout.

Does anyone feel more surprised by CL moves than moves in other markets?
What are the bar characteristics when these surprises occur?
Compared to other markets, where would you put CL on a surprising, pernicious move scale?
If people have examples, others can decide if they would also have been surprised by the market event, whether they would have been in the market, whether the move would have been bad or good given their position.
I realise this is a forum using real chart examples.
Real chart examples would be great.
If historical charts would be out of place, I shall patiently await fresh charts of surprises.
Simple and substantial.

CL Flash Crash 05062010
Please register on futures.io to view futures trading content such as post attachment(s), image(s), and screenshot(s).

The following 4 users say Thank You to Brutus for this post:
 
  #110 (permalink)
Elite Member
London UK
 
Futures Experience: Master
Platform: Sierra, NinjaTrader, Interactive Brokers, TradeStation
Favorite Futures: several
 
Posts: 18 since Sep 2014
Thanks: 5 given, 6 received



Futures Operator View Post
The best way to answer these questions would be to start watching it yourself IMO. Anyone else's experience will be highly subjective, as indextrader said. I trade CL, and love how it trades, it is my favorite market compared to others due to how it trends, the speed at which it moves away from levels, etc.

I have watched CL myself, traded CL myself, and CL is one of my all time favourites, for the same reasons as you.
You may be right, but I don't think everyone else's experience will be highly subjective, especially when it comes to their reasons, why they stayed out of the market, what factor they had in mind that signalled trouble, what they noticed that may have gone unnoticed by another.

There may be bad trades that no one would have avoided, but I think in most cases other people can help us learn from our mistakes, and learn more quickly as well.

Anyway, I was so interested in getting some real examples from someone with such a different perception of CL because I so thoroughly agree with you and Indextrader7.


Last edited by oceanbreeze; September 8th, 2014 at 04:00 PM.
The following user says Thank You to oceanbreeze for this post:

Closed Thread



futures io > > > > CL Crude-nalysis

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



Upcoming Webinars and Events (4:30PM ET unless noted)

Jigsaw Trading: TBA

Elite only

FuturesTrader71: TBA

Elite only

NinjaTrader: TBA

Jan 18

RandBots: TBA

Jan 23

GFF Brokers & CME Group: Futures & Bitcoin

Elite only

Adam Grimes: TBA

Elite only

Ran Aroussi: TBA

Elite only
     

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Trading CL (Crude Oil futures) #2 Big Mike Commodities Futures Trading 95 March 18th, 2015 08:13 PM
Why crude oil (CL) trades mostly 1 contract? fyd49 Commodities Futures Trading 8 May 22nd, 2014 04:27 PM
Crude Oil (CL) Trading by goldenriver goldenriver Elite Trading Journals 52 March 12th, 2013 04:32 PM
Big Mike's CL (crude oil) journal Big Mike Trading Journals 60 May 25th, 2011 07:45 PM
Trading CL (Crude Oil Futures) tzachi Traders Hideout 145 September 4th, 2009 11:57 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:12 AM.

Copyright © 2017 by futures io, s.a., Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama, +507 833-9432, info@futures.io
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice.
There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
no new posts
Page generated 2017-12-16 in 0.15 seconds with 20 queries on phoenix via your IP 54.226.113.250