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The Crude Dude Oil Trading System

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In this one right now..

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Decided to just grab 10..

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Saw order flow coming in..if this takes out 44.10 (there should be stops under there from latecomers who entered long) ..price could move down sharply.

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Moved stop to breakeven..not too thrilled with this now.

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Saw order flow coming in..if this takes out 44.10 (there should be stops under there from latecomers who entered long) ..price could move down sharply.

Hi Lance - can you confirm why you didn't get short up around the 44.30 area when price moved through the "spine" and bars turned red? Were you waiting to clear the previous low at 44.20? Thanks.

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Hi Lance - can you confirm why you didn't get short up around the 44.30 area when price moved through the "spine" and bars turned red? Were you waiting to clear the previous low at 44.20? Thanks.

Exactly. First the order flow wasn't showing much strength at 44.30, plus I did want to see the previous swing low get taken out also.

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This time I got the 20 ticks.

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People who were short getting stops taken out..Trade moving up nice.

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Happy with the 10 tick scalp there.

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Those who have followed this thread may wonder why some of these trades deviate from my usual Black spine breaks ..and seem like very late entries. I still take plenty of my spine break trades..but I do need confirmation of strong order flow for them.
After studying months of charts and reviewing hours of my recorded sessions, I started seeing strong moves that seemed to make no structural sense. Price would be trending in a particular direction..and had not hit any serious support and resistance and then..out of nowhere..pick up speed and take off strongly in the opposite direction.
It happened time and time again. So I started watching what order flow was doing at these moments..I started looking at the trade locations. I started thinking about what other traders were doing instead of just following charts and price action.. Where were they entering ? If there was a pullback and a trend re-entry, where had all these traders put their stops? Where would they take profits? How would the combination of profit taking and then stops being hit..along with big players suddenly reversing their position look..especially on the intensity of the order flow coming in? Where would traders be trapped and have to liquidate?

So along with my usual price action entries, I now have other options..that take into consideration what happens in those situations I just described. I am seeing good results from this so far.

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