NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





DeepDiscountTrading Broker


Discussion in Brokers

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one MetalTrade with 26 posts (18 thanks)
    2. looks_two sysot1t with 18 posts (20 thanks)
    3. looks_3 omaha786 with 16 posts (1 thanks)
    4. looks_4 Slipknot511 with 12 posts (19 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one Slipknot511 with 1.6 thanks per post
    2. looks_two sysot1t with 1.1 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 MetalTrade with 0.7 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 Futures Operator with 0.5 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 117,185 views
    2. thumb_up 143 thanks given
    3. group 58 followers
    1. forum 270 posts
    2. attach_file 4 attachments




 
Search this Thread

DeepDiscountTrading Broker

  #191 (permalink)
 NetTecture 
Szczecin
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninja, writing own now
Posts: 211 since Mar 2010


TrendTraderBH View Post
TMFT, I spoke to Ninja on the phone about this issue and if you use TT with NT you get no historical data live or SIM.

Damn. MAJOR issue. Ignoring the "historical" part - a 10 minute outage means a 10 minuet gap and all indicators CAN be off significantly. Not good. It pretty much eliminates TT as data provider (though they are still a valid connection option for trading). That and the fact that you can not implement your own historical data sources due to NinjaTraders not exactly smart (I.e. "never really thiought about it") way ot locking their system from external providers means you can also not implement / help yourself with a third party feed that you just MAY have available that is not supported ;(

Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
NT7 Indicator Script Troubleshooting - Camarilla Pivots
NinjaTrader
Better Renko Gaps
The Elite Circle
How to apply profiles
Traders Hideout
Pivot Indicator like the old SwingTemp by Big Mike
NinjaTrader
Trade idea based off three indicators.
Traders Hideout
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on NexusFi
Just another trading journal: PA, Wyckoff & Trends
35 thanks
Tao te Trade: way of the WLD
24 thanks
Bigger Wins or Fewer Losses?
19 thanks
GFIs1 1 DAX trade per day journal
16 thanks
Spoo-nalysis ES e-mini futures S&P 500
14 thanks
  #192 (permalink)
 TrendTraderBH 
Detroit, Michigan
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Ninja Trader
Trading: Futures
Posts: 315 since Nov 2011
Thanks Given: 565
Thanks Received: 301

Yep. Howard was my first choice for a broker but TT issue was the deal killer. I even complained to NT on the call with them....no luck.

Reply With Quote
  #193 (permalink)
 soveral 
North Port, Florida USA
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: TradeStation-Ninja Trader
Broker: DDT-TT
Trading: ES,NQ,CL
Posts: 24 since Oct 2010
Thanks Given: 9
Thanks Received: 6


Hello;
If you buy the license from NT, you get the historical data.
Your welcome,
soveral

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #194 (permalink)
 TrendTraderBH 
Detroit, Michigan
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Ninja Trader
Trading: Futures
Posts: 315 since Nov 2011
Thanks Given: 565
Thanks Received: 301

I was told by NT that I needed to get another data feed for the historical data (after I purchased the multi-license).

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #195 (permalink)
 NetTecture 
Szczecin
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninja, writing own now
Posts: 211 since Mar 2010


TrendTraderBH View Post
I was told by NT that I needed to get another data feed for the historical data (after I purchased the multi-license).

What is really bad here is the bad licensing of NInjaTrader again - I would really like to implement my own historical data provider, but it is not possible or at least not documented.

Sucks anyhow.

Reply With Quote
  #196 (permalink)
 
mattz's Avatar
 mattz   is a Vendor
 
Posts: 2,493 since Sep 2010
Thanks Given: 2,441
Thanks Received: 3,791


TrendTraderBH View Post
I was told by NT that I needed to get another data feed for the historical data (after I purchased the multi-license).

Rithmic provides up to one year of tick data.
Some our customers have been using Kinetic for longer term historical data and from I have seen, it is highly accurate.
I always recommend to use whatever has proved to work as oppose to "experiment" with others.

Trading futures and options involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. You may lose more than your initial investment. All posts are opinions and do not claim to be facts. Please conduct your own due diligence. Use only Risk capital when trading Futures.
1 800 771 6748 local 561 367 8686 email [email protected]
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
  #197 (permalink)
 NetTecture 
Szczecin
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninja, writing own now
Posts: 211 since Mar 2010


mattz View Post
Rithmic provides up to one year of tick data.
Some our customers have been using Kinetic for longer term historical data and from I have seen, it is highly accurate.
I always recommend to use whatever has proved to work as oppose to "experiment" with others.

Well, I have a full database of NxCore CME group feeds here, 200.000 symbols at the moment. I would love to integrate this with Ninja.

Reply With Quote
  #198 (permalink)
 
NinjaTrader's Avatar
 NinjaTrader  NinjaTrader is an official Site Sponsor
Site Sponsor

Web: NinjaTrader
AMA: Ask Me Anything
Webinars: NinjaTrader Webinars
Elite offer: Click here
 
Posts: 1,713 since May 2010
Thanks Given: 203
Thanks Received: 2,686


NetTecture View Post
What is really bad here is the bad licensing of NInjaTrader again - I would really like to implement my own historical data provider, but it is not possible or at least not documented.

Sucks anyhow.

The technical implementation of how NinjaTrader connects to brokerage and/or market data API's flows from the business requirement that we want full control over that.

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
  #199 (permalink)
 NetTecture 
Szczecin
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninja, writing own now
Posts: 211 since Mar 2010


NinjaTrader View Post
The technical implementation of how NinjaTrader connects to brokerage and/or market data API's flows from the business requirement that we want full control over that.

"Go to hell"?

Maybe your business requirement - and I can understand that from the ORDER side of things (as you require mor moeny for a multi broker license), but not allowing extension of the downstream side has a reason I would like to hear - but as it likely makes people laugh because the reason is just "no, we do not want" you will not explain anyway.

Seriously, this is one of the limitations that make zero sense. Despite the well known lack of programming quality, this is the second reason that keeps you out of a lot of scenarios. I just finished a project on a company (just 1500 people) that traded partially using Excel - and they would not have been able to even look at NInjaTrader beacuse both, price data feeds as well as order handling were propietary. Partially home made (price distribution), partially just something you never deal with. WIthout a chance to integrate - "go to hell" is the only answer when evaluating technologies. Sorry if that is harsh, but for me the limitations make ZERO sense. YOu should:

* Document the API
* Allow arbitrary data in
* Allow broker side extension if / when a multi broker license is installed.

Finished. Makes it a better product - but then, I doubt "better product" is in your business requirement.

Right now I work around it because your requiement is funny and not made by competent people - one of your protocols is open, documented and easy to copy, so guess what - I have a server here that NEARLY (working the bugs) takes and forwards your ninja trader orders. Funny Ninja thinks it is a TT FIX server Nice, open, documented. I also can push price data, jsut not anything historical, but that means another block of your requirements is broken. Unless the requirements are "make a product that looks shitty and has non logical limitations" - then you succeeded, because this limitation makes NO sense and - makes your product look worse than it is.

Reply With Quote
  #200 (permalink)
 
NinjaTrader's Avatar
 NinjaTrader  NinjaTrader is an official Site Sponsor
Site Sponsor

Web: NinjaTrader
AMA: Ask Me Anything
Webinars: NinjaTrader Webinars
Elite offer: Click here
 
Posts: 1,713 since May 2010
Thanks Given: 203
Thanks Received: 2,686


We have gone back and forth with you over the years and you just can’t help yourself but insult, be abusive and state opinions as facts on things you have no clue about. Any business decision I make is for the greater good of all stakeholders of NinjaTrader, owners, customers and partners alike. You loudly state your displeasure for how I run my business. Frankly, I don’t know why you continue to stick around using NinjaTrader while constantly making derogatory comments.

I don't think people will fault me for saying, why don’t you just go use something else?

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote




Last Updated on June 20, 2014


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts