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#871 (permalink )
Perth, Western Australia
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader, MultiCharts
Trading: Futures
Posts: 34 since Feb 2012
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brmicha2000
Hi, I just wanted to add here, that trading futures when market crashes arrive is something very different than at other times. You may have various problems with all brokers. Liquidity dries up in those environments, which can cause the market to move much, much bigger than normal. If you have
level 2 data, and you look at the
DOM , you can see the total liquidity day to day, and that can allow you to see if you are trading a very, very below average liquidity market. Markets like this, most likely, can have margin increases mid day. The market can be shut down mid day, which is not your brokers fault.
Slippage on trade entries and exits will be extremely high. This is also not your brokers fault. These types of markets are a nightmare if you are trying to trade a trading system and have consistent size wins and losses. Most people out there are just thinking how they can make a bunch of money, when, from my opinion, they should more be thinking about consistency of running a trading plan over time.
Thanks for your opinion and concern, something we all need to keep in mind
In my case I run a tight ship and always have. I'm still looking to trade the same position sizes I'm just attempting to minimize funds sitting in my account solely for the purpose of intra-day trading where they could be used for other things, where the funds can still be drawn upon in the events in which you describe in your posts I have no intention of bankrupting myself but I guess most to do don't.
Can you help answer these questions from other members on futures io?
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#872 (permalink )
Oslo + Norway
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One thing that is really annoying for me as an international client is that they don't provide a simple end-of-year statement showing my net P&L for the year.
Instead, I have to download all the monthly statements and compile it manually in Excel.
It's not the end of the world, but I can't understand why they can't create a yearly statement for me just like with a monthly statement.
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#873 (permalink )
Syracuse, NY
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninjatrader8
Broker: NinjaTrader Brokerage
Trading: Futures
Posts: 4 since Jan 2022
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The only problem I have had is with the last update. I have had very good luck with customer service solving any issues Ive had in the past.
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#874 (permalink )
Perth, Western Australia
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader, MultiCharts
Trading: Futures
Posts: 34 since Feb 2012
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Big Mike
P.S. Check tomorrow's newsletter out...
Mike
Maybe a silly question but where can I find the newsletter? I seem to be unable to locate it.
Also when is it released so I can look out for it in the future?
Cheers
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#875 (permalink )
Taipei Taiwan
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: TV, SC, QT
Broker: Interactive Brokers & Taiwan local brokers & AMP Futures
Trading: Stocks, Commodity & Index Futures
Posts: 116 since Jan 2017
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Oh~~that make sense, InterActiveBroker, so he said IAB.
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#876 (permalink )
austria
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: TWS
Broker: IB
Trading: Futures
Posts: 33 since Mar 2011
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+ In which company did you rent your dedicated server & where is the server actually located exactly?
THX,
hyperscalper
OK, well most traders would not entertain these suggestions. Most traders are sitting at their home offices, and thus a potentially huge amount of congesting Wide Area Network (WAN) traffic needs to flow from the market data source and exchange, to the trader's desk.
Firstly, traders are always "looking around" for the next instrument that might be more profitable, and often fail to specialize. Because they are considering, and are ready to trade, a
range of instruments, that data has to travel to their desk.
Efficiency requires specialization, and that requires cutting down drastically on the number of market data feed elements needed to be watched/processed.
Most traders are looking for "high end" workstations to "crunch" all that data and manage many displays; and tend to neglect the WAN and ISP network facilities which are required to manage peak loading. How many times do you hear traders talk about "lag" ??? When "lag" is humanly perceivable; it's already huge.
If you are such a trader, and using
NinjaTrader as your platform, you'll be running Windows, and you'll want to optimize your WAN networking as much as possible. This involves replacing the "stock" "congestion provider" (maybe it's CUBIC) for your Internet TCP with a much better one, currently named "CTCP" which
handles WAN congestion more efficiently, thus improving overall throughput. (You can look up how to do that). Basically you want to tune your system as a Internet Gamer would want to do it, and there are guides for that.
But the key in our approach is to "Co-locate" the actual Dedicated Server and platform, NT8 NinjaTrader as physically close to the exchange as possible. This means for Futures traders, locating in Chicago or, at even higher cost, in Aurora itself so that your machine is very close to the data sources, and the orders portals if at all possible.
Choosing some degree of effective colocation means that the trading platform is very near, in network latencies, to the exchanges.
The role of your home office desktop thus becomes a "remote display" for all that is happening on your dedicated server. I say dedicated, because a cheaper virtual private server (aka VPS) is generally not good enough nor reliable enough.
A powerful data center server can be had for $150-$200 per month, on a self-managed
basis . This could mean you'll need to learn how to be admin for your server, plus potentially creating 1 or 2 "virtual machines" in that same box; each of which could itself run an instance of NT8 NinjaTrader or your preferred platform; at no additional monthly cost. In my case, I get 3 "machines" for the price of one; since my monthly fee includes a license for 2 Hyper V VM instances as well.... very handy once you know how it works.
BUT LET'S FACE FACTS that very very few traders will choose this route, even if they understand potential advantages. They just don't have the specialist "mindset" to "take the plunge" into the world of very powerful datacenter based servers rather than the usual concept of "powerful desktop pc".
In my case, software on the server can take decisions when it "sees" a trigger opportunity; with a very short latency. That's gonna involve software features beyond the scope of this discussion; but obviously your latencies and the volumes of data you can process greatly increase when you choose to use a dedicated server.
Hope this helps; and Good Trading !
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#878 (permalink )
Syracuse, NY
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninjatrader8
Broker: NinjaTrader Brokerage
Trading: Futures
Posts: 4 since Jan 2022
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Sarasota FL
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Platform: Sierra Chart
Trading: ES, YM
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torento
Maybe a silly question but where can I find the newsletter? I seem to be unable to locate it.
Also when is it released so I can look out for it in the future?
Cheers
It was the mass email that was sent out telling people about this thread, sent out about the time when everything got very busy in the thread (and was the reason it did.)
It's not really a "newsletter", that's what this software calls it.
Bob.
When one door closes, another opens.
-- Cervantes, Don Quixote
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#880 (permalink )
Mi
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninja
Trading: ES, NQ, Gold
Posts: 10 since Aug 2010
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I have been a Ninja Trader user since 2008 Ninja version 6. I was able to weather the updates and crashes for a while and then the platform became "stable". However, the crashes are becoming more frequent again and in the past year unbearable, at least for me. With 6 monitors, their platform support had me believing my computer was the issue. So, I went out and bought the fastest gaming computer to no avail. My chart data continues to freeze. Of course, they say it's a third-party indicator issue. I got rid of years of indicators. They were of no use to me anyways. After years of trading, I went back to price action and very few indicators. My data is still freezing. It has become a mental issue that when I put on a trade will the charts freeze or not. Today I opened a TradeStation account! I have been putting this off because I really didn't want to go through the new platform learning curve. Today, this morning my data wasn't there. I had to log in and out of their "new" website platform several times. Platform support said that I didn't rollover my instruments??!!? ...After 15 years of Ninja, they sent me directions on how to rollover instruments. So, it looks like so long Ninja!
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