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Just got this message from Mirus:

Hello :

We are excited to introduce BIGTICK, the next generation trading engine now available from Mirus Futures.

As a Mirus client, we wanted to invite you to join us as one of the first users to benefit from trading on NinjaTrader through BIGTICK.
Start Your BIGTICK Demo
Featuring new server-side functionality including OCOs and Bracket Orders, BIGTICK empowers NinjaTrader users with unmatched speed and platform performance.

In addition, BIGTICK users receive free access to a new web-based platform, MirusTrader. MirusTrader provides seamless access to trade your Mirus account from any computer or mobile device with an internet connection. Traders can now use both NinjaTrader and MirusTrader in conjunction for a completely mobile trading experience.

You can get started with your BIGTICK demo through the link below. Following registration, you will receive your BIGTICK SIM username and password along with set-up instructions.
Start Your BIGTICK Demo
To transfer your live Mirus Futures trading account from Zen-Fire to BIGTICK, simply email support@mirusfutures.com with your request and Mirus account number to make a seamless transition.

Join the evolution of trading engine solutions and step-up to BIGTICK!

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Is BIGTICK still Zen-Fire or not? Do I want BIGTICK?

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No, BIGTICK is not ZenFire, but another engine. Why to switch, I have no clue

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No, BIGTICK is not ZenFire, but another engine. Why to switch, I have no clue

August 27th is a full featured webinar on futures.io (formerly BMT) that covers BIGTICK. Mirus Futures CEO Eliot Wickersheimer presenting and answering questions.

Here are a couple of bullets, but the majority of info will be released in the webinar. That includes a history of Zen Fire and how BIGTICK differs from it, so you can make the decision on switching.

This online event will introduce the enhancements available to NinjaTrader users through the BIGTICK trading engine including:

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August 27th is a full featured webinar on futures.io (formerly BMT) that covers BIGTICK. Mirus Futures CEO Eliot Wickersheimer presenting and answering questions.

Here are a couple of bullets, but the majority of info will be released in the webinar. That includes a history of Zen Fire and how BIGTICK differs from it, so you can make the decision on switching.

This online event will introduce the enhancements available to NinjaTrader users through the BIGTICK trading engine including:

• Dynamic data distribution for enhanced platform performance.
• Server-side functionality including OCOs and Bracket Orders.
• Distributed order routing to further optimize speed.
• Complete mobility through the free MirusTrader platform.

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I will post the webinar registration link in this thread soon, you can subscribe to the thread to follow updates.

I also want to encourage you guys to go ahead and ask your questions in this thread, I will take those questions to Eliot so we can get as many answered as possible during the webinar.

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I will post the webinar registration link in this thread soon, you can subscribe to the thread to follow updates.

I also want to encourage you guys to go ahead and ask your questions in this thread, I will take those questions to Eliot so we can get as many answered as possible during the webinar.

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Two questions if not answered in the webinar:

1) I am seeing old (2012) references to BigData, LLC actually the parent of ZenFire. Is big data run by the same people as ZenFire or modeled against it?

2) Will there be any pricing advantage moving to BIGDATA?

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My questions:
1) What zenfire functionality trader misses if switching to BIGTICK?
2) How historical tick-by-tick data is provided?

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my question: why is the live support (chat) from mirus no more online? last 3 times i tried always off..

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August 27th is a full featured webinar on futures.io (formerly BMT) that covers BIGTICK. Mirus Futures CEO Eliot Wickersheimer presenting and answering questions.

Here are a couple of bullets, but the majority of info will be released in the webinar. That includes a history of Zen Fire and how BIGTICK differs from it, so you can make the decision on switching.

This online event will introduce the enhancements available to NinjaTrader users through the BIGTICK trading engine including:

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• Distributed order routing to further optimize speed.
• Complete mobility through the free MirusTrader platform.

Mike

The webinar is now open for registrations:

https://futures.io/webinars/#registernow

See you on Tuesday @ 4:30 PM Eastern. Don't be late and bring your questions...

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Looks like there is info on Bigtick here.

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I have built some Ninja indicators that depend on the data being "true". Several friends that use other data sources have probs with these indies as they behave totally different. The most problematic has to do with the engulfing candle. If the data is 'filtered' then the engulfs happen at totally different places.
Is there a way to switch back and forth while in a session on Ninja??
Can we have one chart open with Zen and the other with BigTick simultaneously???
Will there be some kind of trial associated with Big Tick and is it easy to switch back if odd results.
Will there be replay data available with BigTick so that we can run backtests and compare?
Will GOMIs indis behave similar?


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Question: When do they think the Mirus WebTrader will be available?

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Will there be market internals such as the NYSE TICK?

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Question: When do they think the Mirus WebTrader will be available?

It appears to be live although I can't log in for some reason.

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No, BIGTICK is not ZenFire, but another engine. Why to switch, I have no clue

Because Ninja + Zenfire costs Mirus 60c per r/t.....

Retail traders end up bearing the brunt of this, it is quite excessive...

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Wasn't ZenFire partly owned by Mirus Futures? If so, then Bigtick probably implies that ZenFire is 'death'? I can't imagine Mirus will invest capital in two competing, interchangeable products.

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My guess is that BitTick is a front end for Zen-Fire, allowing functionality like OCO, mobile app and web app to be implemented which for some reason Zen-Fire is just not able to do.

Just my 2 cents.

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Wasn't ZenFire partly owned by Mirus Futures? If so, then Bigtick probably implies that ZenFire is 'death'? I can't imagine Mirus will invest capital in two competing, interchangeable products.

Well - in that case, Mirus isn't paying 60c per r/t - they are collecting it off the other guys!

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Thanks for the info.... Can we run Zen and BigTick simultaneously on 2 charts on Ninja so we can do a side by side compare??

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Just got this message from Mirus:

Hello :

We are excited to introduce BIGTICK, the next generation trading engine now available from Mirus Futures.

As a Mirus client, we wanted to invite you to join us as one of the first users to benefit from trading on NinjaTrader through BIGTICK.
Start Your BIGTICK Demo
Featuring new server-side functionality including OCOs and Bracket Orders, BIGTICK empowers NinjaTrader users with unmatched speed and platform performance.

In addition, BIGTICK users receive free access to a new web-based platform, MirusTrader. MirusTrader provides seamless access to trade your Mirus account from any computer or mobile device with an internet connection. Traders can now use both NinjaTrader and MirusTrader in conjunction for a completely mobile trading experience.

You can get started with your BIGTICK demo through the link below. Following registration, you will receive your BIGTICK SIM username and password along with set-up instructions.
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To transfer your live Mirus Futures trading account from Zen-Fire to BIGTICK, simply email support@mirusfutures.com with your request and Mirus account number to make a seamless transition.

Join the evolution of trading engine solutions and step-up to BIGTICK!

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Thanks for the info.... Can we run Zen and BigTick simultaneously on 2 charts on Ninja so we can do a side by side compare??

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hopefully we find out tomorrow during the webinar.

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I would like to have the server side functionality--oco etc.....

Can't really imagine day trading through a web interface....lets see how it works.

But having he ability to monitor and/or the close out positions via a web interface sure might come in handy during emergencies.

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Thanks for hosting the webinar Mike. I guess it's time to look at Dorman (I use RCG) as it was mentioned BigTick can only be used with Dorman. Can I get opinions on Dorman and anything related to Eurex/Dorman as I am primarily a Bund trader?

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I noticed at the beginning the presenter indicated BigTick will adjust the incoming data to the capability of the connection/computer. To me that implies the data is aggregated or massaged in some way. Then later he answered yes to a question whether the BigTick data is unfiltered.

Being as I switched from IB to Zen-Fire for the unfiltered data, this is very important to me. Will a tick data chart with BigTick be exactly the same as a tick data chart with Zen-Fire? I would like some reassurance on this question...

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As a current Mirus / Dorman client, I can't see any advantage by switching from Zen-Fire to BIGTICK as long as I don't use any mobile device.

But maybe I missed something that would convince me to do so...

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As a current Mirus / Dorman client, I can't see any advantage by switching from Zen-Fire to BIGTICK as long as I don't use any mobile device.

But maybe I missed something that would convince me to do so...

BIGTICK's serverside OCO has value for me. With zenfire it's managed locally in PC.

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Missed the webinar due to work schedule, but looks like they added the charts into the web-trader?

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Missed the webinar due to work schedule, but looks like they added the charts into the web-trader?

Is it okay to trade live on the web-trader or is it still only in BETA?

Big Mike has posted the webinar in the video download section.

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As a current Mirus / Dorman client, I can't see any advantage by switching from Zen-Fire to BIGTICK as long as I don't use any mobile device.

But maybe I missed something that would convince me to do so...

Just took a quick look and here's my opinion, which might not be correct as always since they deal with someone else's proprietary API and technical features:

1. I think one huge difference is that one will be actively developed and supported while the other won't. If you've gone through the API, ZF uses a notoriously vulnerable encryption protocol and has many missing, incomplete features that will never be filled because they stopped development.

2. I'm not really familiar with what they mean by dynamic data distribution and perhaps they should clarify that a bit. Even the compression on a low-end feed like NxCore barely uses the resources of a legacy machine, so it's hard to understand the incremental benefit that dynamic distribution provides. ZF uses UDP for data delivery and naturally just drops packets on a narrow pipe, so it is 'dynamic' in some sense.

3. I'm also not very clear how the advertised dynamic order routing feature works with regards to futures exchanges since they use centralized matching engines.

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Does anyone happen to know if the Mirus Trader DOM has the option to be static?
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Anyone received a log in for the big tick demo yet?

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I missed the webinar and will watch the recording later.

I use Mirus/Dorman/Zenfire.

Server side OCO and webtrader are very attractive features to have.

Was there any mention of cost for BIGTICK?

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Same cost structure as Zenfire.


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I missed the webinar and will watch the recording later.

I use Mirus/Dorman/Zenfire.

Server side OCO and webtrader are very attractive features to have.

Was there any mention of cost for BIGTICK?


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Same cost structure as Zenfire.

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Then I don't see any downside..... yet

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Anyone received a log in for the big tick demo yet?

Yes,

If you haven't seen it by now, follow-up with support but include your account number. They may not know you have an active Mirus account (required for the BETA is my understanding).

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Just a heads up. I was under the impression after the MirusTrader / BigTick webinar that both data feeds (Big Tick and Zenfire) could be used. I spoke with Mirus and NinjaTrader and they both said that unless you have a multi-broker license you cannot have both data feeds, which are not just data feeds but trading engines also. So basically with with a Lifetime license there is no way to compare the two live feeds for accuracy unless you are using the BigTick/MirusTrader demo, and I'm not sure how accurate that would be.

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Just a heads up. I was under the impression after the MirusTrader / BigTick webinar that both data feeds (Big Tick and Zenfire) could be used. I spoke with Mirus and NinjaTrader and they both said that unless you have a multi-broker license you cannot have both data feeds, which are not just data feeds but trading engines also. So basically with with a Lifetime license there is no way to compare the two live feeds for accuracy unless you are using the BigTick/MirusTrader demo, and I'm not sure how accurate that would be.

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To clarify, you can compare with a multi-broker license both subscription based or lifetime. You would need to run on two separate computers.

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To clarify, you can compare with a multi-broker license both subscription based or lifetime. You would need to run on two separate computers.


Thanks Ray...

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Thanks Ray...

Ray....sorry for the confusion....I just want to make sure I have this correct. Are you saying if I have a lifetime license I can keep both Zenfire and Big Tick and compare the two using say my desktop and laptop all with the same license?

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Ray....sorry for the confusion....I just want to make sure I have this correct. Are you saying if I have a lifetime license I can keep both Zenfire and Big Tick and compare the two using say my desktop and laptop all with the same license?

With a multi-broker license (subscription or lifetime) you have access to both Zen-Fire and BigTick. Our licensing only allows one instance of NinjaTrader (per license key) to be running at a single time however, for the temporary purpose of comparison we are OK with you doing as you stated, run one on desktop and another on laptop.

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With a multi-broker license (subscription or lifetime) you have access to both Zen-Fire and BigTick. Our licensing only allows one instance of NinjaTrader (per license key) to be running at a single time however, for the temporary purpose of comparison we are OK with you doing as you stated, run one on desktop and another on laptop.

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BIGTICK's serverside OCO has value for me. With zenfire it's managed locally in PC.



Meaning, the OCO is not riding on your computer anymore, and would still trigger if you lose connection? If that is correct, that is one more safety net worth having, particularly without a cost difference. I have rarely needed seatbelts in a car, but wear them every time just in case.

I had an OCO mishap several years ago. I had a CL contract trade with profit target and stop loss bracket set, went to bed, woke up and was down over $2000 on a single contract. My bracket was around a $500 risk.

The profit hit first, but since the OCO did not trigger it left the stop loss as an open pending order going the other direction. The market reversed overnight and impulsed through my stop, putting me back in but this time with no target or stop loss.

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Yes, Gary! I tested it and it works

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Yes, Gary! I tested it and it works

I just emailed for my trial. Thanks.

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Can we trade sim on the webtrader??

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If using Mirus Futures and BigTick, are there regular times when an account becomes "unavailable for trading", such as daily system reset, or scheduled maintenance etc. If so does NinjaTrader need to be restarted to resume trading?

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Using Mirus Futures and BigTick:
1. Can a NinjaTrader NinjaScript algorithm use SetStopLoss() and SetProfitTarget() simultaneously?
2. Can a NinjaTrader ATM strategy use Stop loss and Profit target simultaneously?

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Using Mirus Futures and BigTick:
Is the brokers return response to trade executions guaranteed to be in the sequence that NinjaTrader requires? Is BigTick specifically coded to respond, each and every time, trade execution data in a specific order?

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Would be very useful using the management server side of the OCO orders in conjunction with Sierra Chart

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