Talking with Anthony right now have not had a chance yet to talk with FT71 but Anthony is great! Every single question I have he has an answer and there platform there allows FT71 to watch your trades so that he can give you feed back. I think this is great for newer people like me!
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good question. will let you know if I find a difference. though will stay on sim for a while.
for the moment, for anyone doing such posts, how about doing a screenshot that would show also the Main Analyzer window - which shows whether the account is a demo or real, like below
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I did not notice any problems with the OEC data I get through S5. But of course, I'm not a heavy user.
One nice thing about OEC, is they started to support continuous contracts, and the latest Multicharts platform (8.8 beta right now) started supporting continuous contracts from OEC - pretty neat, similar to IQFeed. You don't get much history though - 4 days for tick data.
If you need more info, ask for a trial account - I think they do offer that, and then read about the forum they offer with the account - it should give you enough info for a while.
Do you day-trade or swing ? I think their forum is especially good if you're trading more or less daily.
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I would imagine people that have that opinion fit into one of two camps.
a) They think their method is top secret and want to protect their edge from prying eyes. Well, I got news, if you can't trust your broker then you shouldn't give them your money.
b) They are embarrassed by their losses and don't want the broker to see them.
I assume the case is (b) here, and I would encourage you to set aside that way of thinking and instead just openly ask for help. @FuturesTrader71 is one of extremely few in this industry that is really trying to help people and he tells it how it is. That is why I've invited him on futures.io (formerly BMT) for countless webinars and AMA's, I appreciate his work and effort in the industry.
Bottom line, don't be afraid of your losing streak and just ask for the damn help. FT71 will give good advice to set you on the right path, and then if you are willing to do the work you stand a chance of learning to improve your trading.
Now you are being arrogant. You dont know me, I dont know you. But I survive from what I gain in trading. If I was recurring in losses, I would have starved a long time ago.
About not wanting my trading system to be open to the world, I have my reasons, as you have yours to charge U$100,00 to anyone wanting to become an elite member. We all have our reasons. I dont judge you, you dont judge me.
Thanks for not answering my question, anyway.
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So what are the reasons, since they fall outside of the two common possibilities I thought of, I'd like to be educated so I can be less arrogant in the future.
When you contacted @FuturesTrader71 and talked to him about your concerns, what did he say?
You were arrogant when you suposed I had losses acumulating and was ashamed to ask for help. Actually, the way you talked, you were more of stating than suposing. Well, let me tell you something. Have you ever looked at Ibovespa's Future Indice? If not, take a look. And then compare it to Crude Oil, just for an example. See which one is easier to make profit. Crude Oil is a piece of cake. And, believe, I'm not being arrogant here. Everything works with it. You can trade reversions (S/R), pullbacks, brake of higher highs or lower lows... even a MA cross strategy can work with it! Now come and try doing it with brazilian's future market. Come and survive here, like I did.
I'm going with Stage5 because I like the OpenCry software. And the cost there seem's low enough (specially when compared to costs here in Brazil).
But, all in all, I didnt want to be caught in an argument with you guys. I just asked a question, and then you started attacking me. And my question remains unanswered. I never asked if they needed to see my screen; I asked if they can see my screen.
So, lets stop fighting for nothing. I'm going to just assume they can see and deal with it.
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I am not sure if you are being serious, but the answer is "of course not". No one could "see your screen" unless you specifically invite them to do so.
I thought what you really meant was them seeing your trades, which of course they will have the ability to do.
I personally don't see value for anyone in your original comment. As a moderator I would imagine you should have a special role here. But... If it was just a provocation on your behalf then it's sad. If you were actually curious about the reasons for that question then there are better ways of asking in my opinion.
It seems there is loads of content on the forum which just represents personal views without really adding anything to the community. So I guess I'm joining the trend.
Just my views.
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Same page. Here's my thought: since the communication is online, the tone and intent is often hard to correctly decipher. I doubt that @Big Mike has any personal malice toward the original poster since he continually tries to be helpful. But had I asked the question and received his response I would have simply felt sorry for him, thinking... ahhh... another jaded traded who wouldn't know a trading profit if it jumped up and bit him in the backside. The bane of digital communication is that it often lacks context.
As a disclaimer, I don't trade with Stage 5. With that clear, they are extremely unlikely to "view your screen" unless you invite them to do so. And, as your broker, they will absolutely see / have access to every trade that you submit. Good luck.
I see the first thing you listed. But when you stated I was the second case, you became insulting. I assume a lot of things about you, but do I say it? Of course not. It would be disrespectful and uncalled for. Its inconvinient.
Yes, I was being serious. I'm sorry but I learned to trust no one 100% when it comes to money. Do you know what a trojan is? A person can see your screen without you even realising it. What if a function like that were already inside the trading software? If someone started being too profitable, reason says "hey, lets see what he is doing!".
I dont know if thats the case, and it just came to me because the other guy said someone could watch your trades and "help you". So I asked, and all this began. Thanks!
"...But had I asked the question and received his response..."
I still stand by my original response. Any professional trader does not need to see your screen. They will not glean or gain anything from you. Even if you had a special way to make money in the market, you could post it all open and I bet that most wouldn't be able to replicate it.
But as multiple people have stated any broker will see all of your executions. Stage 5 has a plugin that allows you to export a trade report so they can determine how your trade performed. They will also help you to better understand the market. I only used it through a demo and they treated me like I had a funded account and a VIP client. And if it wasn't for Ninjatrader brokerage I would have opened my account with Stage 5.
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Come here, man, I dont like to fight. Let's be friends. Really.
But I dont agree with you when you say a trader cant copy something from other trader. I myself developed various ideas after seeing others trade. Of course I add my own touch to make it more "my way", but i cant deny it helped me to open my eyes for some possibilities.
For Stage5, yes, the support is outstanding. It was one of the things I liked the most. And here in Brazil we dont have softwares so developed (we suffer to send an order fast!!!!), so OpenCry's one looks marvelous.
Also copying isn't the same as executing. You could show me your system, heck even set with me in the same room for a few weeks. But the odds are I would not be able to execute it like you. And in the long run, I will end up probably losing more then I could ever make with it. Is it the system? No.
You cannot trade something you do not believe. And unless I have taken something and tailored it to me, it will not work. This is why everyone has problems with "turn key" trading strategies and mentors.
Also look at FT71 he is very open about his trading strategy. But most people cannot execute it like him.
Also making it "Your way" is something that I cannot steal from you. I cannot take "your way" away from you. All someone can do is make it their way which will be different from you. I personally have taken Brooks price action and mixed it with market profile. It works great for me. Will it work for someone else? Probably not.
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Stage 5 Trading Corp is now a futures.io (formerly BMT) site sponsor and I want to welcome them as an official site sponsor. @FuturesTrader71 has been active within the community for a number of years, but now the brokerage he co-founded will officially take a role on the site.
Anthony Giacomin has an AMA (Ask Me Anything) for any questions related to Stage 5 here:
Thanks for the warm welcome @BigMike! Stage 5 is certainly happy to be here with the rest of the futures.io (formerly BMT) community.
If anyone has any questions or feel that we may be able to help with anything, please feel free to contact us. Stage 5 - Contact
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Note: Big Mike Trading does NOT receive compensation for these referrals, we simply worked out these special deals to help our Elite Members who have chosen to support the site. Even though we believe these are great products and services, you should always do your own research before doing business with a company.
Just wanted to voice my appreciation for S5's Anthony, Max and the rest of the team for there great work setting me up and supporting me in my move to futures from stocks which coincided with a move from London to Melbourne!
It hasn't been an easy setup either as I'm based in Melbourne with issues of latency with orders and prints in the DOM. I like to trade 'at the edge of my seat' type setups looking for pressure points on reversals, breakouts and stop runs etc and so it was crucial I had a low ping ms time. The guys were MORE than accommodating knowing that my orders routing to Chicago from my PC and onto the Eurex exchange and back would take a while (on scalping terms!). They recommended to me good alternatives with VPS/Co-location solutions and even a partnered data vendor that now allows me much faster print/execution speed.
We are almost there but I really felt the need to sing the praises of these guys to the high heavens. They're trustworthy, supportive and downright cool guys.
Don't hesitate to give Anthony or Max a call and hear how they can help you out!
*This was originally posted in the S5 Trading AMA thread.
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In January 2017, we held an open nomination process whereby our members could openly nominate anyone they chose in 13 different categories. Some of those categories are: Futures Broker of the Year, Options Broker of the Year, Trading Platform of the Year, Options Platform of the Year, Mobile Platform of the Year, Data Feed of the Year, and Trading Product of the Year. There are also an additional six categories that are focused on user contributed content on our site, including: Member of the Year, Webinar of the Year, Thread of the Year, Journal of the Year, Programmer of the Year, and Indicator of the Year.
We then opened our voting system so that traders are the world could vote for their favorite in each category. When the voting closed, we selected the top three winners in each category and have awarded them as 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place (Gold, Silver, Bronze awards).
The clearing relationship between Stage 5 and AMP has come to an end
Sigh! We have not a lot of choice here in Canada and now this one is gone. I liked my realtionship with Stage5. Great service and support as well as teaching from Morad which was one of the reason for going with them. I just hope they will find a replacement for the clearing firms that can accept us poor little Canadians. Thanks to you Morad for the service you have provided. I'll miss your trading room.
Now, i am considering a combine with topsteptrader to at least be able to carry forward my trading activities or switch to CFD using my Oanda account. Not sure what path i will take.
Hang Tight @trendisyourfriend .....a solution should be right around the corner! We will contact you and the rest of the Stage 5 Community when this solution is available for traders in your area. In the meantime, please feel free to email your broker for more information. Keep in mind this solution is in the works and will hopefully be available in the next weeks!!!
I think a combine with @TopstepTrader would also be a great way to keep yourself involved in the markets. As always we appreciate the involvement and support and look forward to hopefully continuing our growth from here.
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I have been a client of S5 from the time FT & Anthony started their venture - which used to be called Vankar at the time. I will split the review in 2 categories -
1. Service - As a broker, S5 offers incredibly prompt & high quality service. If there is a complex issue, they will work with you to get to the right solution. I have been with other brokers before and can only vouch Anthony is the best that I have worked with.
2. Offerings - Well if you are an ES trader, chances are that you already know who FT is. If not, do yourself a favor and check out his website and ton of webinars - will definitely expedite your growth as a trader irrespective of the trading methodology you use. Besides all the tools, webinars, chat room, trader bites, etc.., what has impressed me the most is FT's integrity and willingness to share.
@struts Thank you for your kind words. We are glad your experience at Stage 5 has been positive. Our team works hard to operate side-by-side with you as a partner. S5 only exists due to quality members like yourself and the rest of the traders in the community. Our vision to make futures brokerage an exceptional experience for traders, seems like it may finally be slowly coming to life. Thank you for being a part of it!
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We look forward to having you on board with the Stage 5 Trading Team as well! We are really excited about this partnership, and believe this synergy and addition of the TF4L discount division at Stage 5 is the next step in fulfilling our vision and commitment of providing futures traders unparalleled trading experiences. The transition for your account should be seamless as the current structure will remain the same. Only the Introducing Broker will change to Stage 5 on the date of the transition.
BTW, did you know the S5 Trade Analyzer Cloud on CQG is now available in beta?!? Let us know if you would be interested in testing it out! We would love to get your feedback on it.
If you have any questions about this exciting news and what it will mean for you, please contact us at any time. We look forward to having you!
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I am happy you raised awareness so that we can address it in its entirety upfront and hopefully avoid any confusion. First and foremost, we have the utmost respect for the NFA. They are effective in protecting the public as well as our interests in dealing with traders. This is a core value and vision of Stage 5 Trading.
From what we understand, most of the accusations towards Patel were regarding actions taken years before he was registered with the NFA as a broker. Regardless, this is neither here nor there as no matter the outcome from the investigation our aim is to provide continuity to the traders under Patel and to enhance the services they have access to. We are confident that the full truth will be brought to the surface from this investigation and we wish the best for all.
With that being said, the partnership discussions about joining forces have been in play well before any of these regulatory issues came to our attention....although they certainly have made discussions more interesting! Partnership conversations arose from the synergies that both IBs offered by combining forces. The next step in Stage 5’s development has been to build a direct discount division for some time which is something that Patel has built independently. With this acquisition of the discount brokerage solutions built by Patel, it is a win-win-win for all parties, we believe. We now have the capability of offering traders opportunities for additional services through the full service brokerage community of Stage 5.
As of April 1st, 2017, Patel Futures LLC will cease to exist and Stage 5 Trading Corp will be handling its business. At which time, Pratik Patel will not be joining Stage 5 as a broker. If you have any questions about this exciting news and what it will mean for you, please contact us at any time. We do not see any unusual baggage or issues relating to this move. We maintain industry-leading standards in risk management, trading tools, solutions and fanatical trader support. Those will remain the same and are a benefit to Patel’s current traders.
In the meantime, for your peace of mind we want to point out that some things will not change:
If you are a current trader at Patel Futures, LLC, the current platform solution, data, pricing, intraday margin and setup will remain the same.
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Hi guys,
It is my pleasure to welcome Anthony Giacomin from Stage 5 Trading and Walter Gallwas from iSystems on Thursday, April 27th @ 4:30 PM Eastern US.
The title for this webinar is "Introducing iSystems with Stage 5 Trading", and bullet points include:
- 650+ Automated Trading Strategies to choose from
- Clients start and stop systems via the platform online, not requiring any actions by the broker
- Manage your account live with the Award Winning S5 Mobile Trader, S5 Trader, and S5 Trade Analyzer!
- Once you have access, you will have 24-hour liquidity and 100% transparency.
- Does not require an LOD (letter of direction)
- The account is set up as a SELF DIRECTED Account. One account and trade as many systems as you like.
- Process for a system to get added to S5 iSystems
- Backtest, Forward Test and Live Trading
- This gets into more detail on how we test and post-performance
State of the art development tools.
- SDK systems are developed using modern Microsoft technologies, the same way regular software and websites are coded.
- Smooth learning curve for experienced trading systems developers. Programming language is very similar to other platforms (EasyLanguage, Ninja, C#)
- Completely free for developers. Not only tech support, but also software tools, historical market data, etc.,
- SDK strategies are compiled into machine code, so developers' intellectual property is protected (no source code is needed)
Thanks again for hosting the S5 iSystems webinar! It was a lot of fun, and certainly a topic I look forward to digging into more detail with the futures.io community. Again, if there are questions about anything S5 iSystems related just drop us a note. Submit the form on the following link and a broker will follow up and assist you.
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Impressed by the webinar guys and great to see S5 taking on another exciting product.
Few questions for Walter if he's able to answer them:
- Are you able to give more detail into the strategies? I understand their is a proprietary nature to the strategies as they're owned by the developer, however a little blurb into what type of strategy it is: breakout, momentum, mean reverting, market making etc and any thing else the developer is willing to share about it. This would give the client more confidence in the strategy and be able to weigh up which strategy is best suited to the current state of the market.
- Would you ever consider options in the future? Having a free running strategy with no hedge is open to black swan type event risk. Having the ability to terminate the trade from the website or calling Anthony is one thing but having a covered call/put, directional spread or whatever is better!
All in all though I really like the product and will be looking to add something like this to complement my discretionary strategy.
Edit: Having watched the second part of the webinar, my first question was answered. Shame there isn't more verbal information of the strategies but understand Walter's point of how you can track each trade it's taking and see it's metrics basically making and assessment of what type of strategy it is.
Just thought about a cool metric to display the recovery aspect of each strategy: Time taken from worst drawdown to breakeven. One to ponder...
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The guys over there at S5 are great. I've always received prompt service from them. Would recommend them to anyone looking for a futures broker. FTs enormous contribution to trader education goes without saying. His private AMAs are priceless. Ian's my broker and he's always been prompt and helpful with his support.
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Thank you for the nice review and detailed comments @Zefi!
We are really excited about the S5 iSystems and it is great to hear positive feedback from traders like yourself. Thank you.
1) Short Strategy Description - I agree with this completely and would really like this description myself. Currently, you can filter by intraday vs swing strategy, but a short bio/description on the trading strategy would be nice. Walter and the developers at iSystems are discussing this feature internally. Hopefully, they will come back with a positive response and add the description field to the cut sheet. Fingers crossed on this one.
2) Options on Futures - Unfortunately this isn't something on iSystems developmental radar. I do however agree and think this could be a nice feature for certain longer term strategies to help manage positions and risk. From what I understand, options on futures add a great deal of complexity on the coding/programming and risk management for these automated trading strategies. Additionally, they add complexity to the data back testing. I believe Futures provide a great deal of liquidity which should provide the strategies with the ability to exit positions quickly and effectively to help manage risk without options. These are a few reasons why I believe Options on Futures are not in iSystems near term development queue.
Otherwise, here is a short video that goes over the basic usage of the S5 iSystems portal and explains a few details on how to use S5 iSystems to add an automated trading strategy to your account.
4) Recovery Statistic: Time Taken from Worst Drawdown to Breakeven - I like this stat a lot as well. One way you can somewhat see the recovery time statistic is to hover your mouse over the chart from the drawdown and scroll to the right until break-even. It isn't perfect like a stat field would be, but something to use in the interim with dates and #'s. Either way, we have added this to the wish list.
I hope this helps. Please let us know if you have any questions or we can help with anything further.
Anthony
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Stage5 is a horrible trading company in my opinion. They cant even get their internal accounting mess sorted out. Funds dont clear on time and I have missed many potential profitable trades due to their inefficiency.
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We are disappointed in hearing that your experience with funding your account hasn’t met your expectations. We persistently advocate for you, the trader, to make sure the process and experience is smooth. This is why we enjoy the high ratings and the outstanding reputation that we have.
I have looked at your case and, unfortunately, we have limited control over how quickly your bank sends a wire and how quickly the FCM processes it. The FCM's treasury department can't post incoming funds to your futures account until they are received. I do believe you should see the funds posted any moment now.
From our experiences, banks receive wire requests from their customers and then put the request in a queue for the transfer. The bank then processes these requests in bulk a few times a day. This can provide confusion as the bank may tell customers the wire has been processed and provide an internal ID # for the wire. This ID # can cause confusion since the wire transfer request is only in the banks internal queue to be processed which is likely to happen at a later time. Once your bank wires the funds the FCM's Treasury Department can receive and post to your account.
If someone experiences delays in the transfer process, I think the best thing to do is request the federal reference number of the wire transfer from your bank. If you can provide us with this number Treasury can track down the funds for you.
We would like you to have your account funded as quickly as possible, and work diligently to support you in that process.
Please feel free to give me a call to discuss this and other potential solutions to help speed up the procedure.
I look forward to speaking with you.
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I just got off the line with your FCM’s treasury department and they confirmed your funds have been received and are posted to your account. They are now available for live trading. Please test your account when you have a chance and let us know if you see anything differently. If you experience any issues like this moving forward just let us know first and we will do everything in our power to assist as we consider ourselves your trading partner.
As always, we appreciate your involvement and support by being with Stage 5 and look forward to having the continued opportunity to serve your trading needs.
Thanks again.
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Excellent! Glad to hear your bank was able to get the transfer sorted, sent, and the FCM was able to post to the account.
If there is anything we can help with from our side, please let us know.
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To be frank, that was a comment about a company's services which was acknowledged by the company and sorted out and i am not looking for any kind of advice on how to trade from anyone.
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Stage5 round turns are slightly more costly than other discount brokers, but their personalized service (they know you by name, how many brokers can compete with that?) and the addtional benefits such as risk control (intervention by FuturesTrader71, what else can you ask for?) and S5 Trade Analyser's stats more than make up for the higher brokerage.
I am not associated with them, however will gladly do publicity as the brokerage is worth its weight in gold.
I just wanted to take a couple of minutes to comment on how your team is handling an issue I raised with them recently: Kevin picked up my request and is providing a first-class service with high-quality communication liaising with both me and CQG.
I can see how he earned the nickname "Turbo" - A breath of fresh air. Thanks!
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This is the greatest message I have receive all year! Thank you! It's great to hear Turbo is taking good care of you. In my opinion, you are in some of the best hands in the industry and it is always nice to hear positive feedback like this.
Stage 5 is devoted to providing traders with what we feel are the best possible & professional services. We tailor to each trader's unique trading solution as well as their needs including the professionally priced services. I'm glad you are a member of our Professional Trader Group.
It is great to see this dedication having positive effects and enhanced trader experiences.
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I've been a client of s5 since 2015 and can only say good things about all of my dealings with them, especially my personal broker Ian as of now, before that Kelsey. Both have been of the upmost professionalism and dealing with any of my requests and concerns. I couldn't be any happier and would recommend this broker to anyone who reads this thread. Their support and tools are far superior to anything out there in my opinion and will not be going anywhere else anytime soon!! Well done guys.
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Hi guys,
It is my pleasure to welcome Max Timmins from Stage 5 Trading for a webinar on Thursday, August 31st @ 4:30PM Eastern US.
The title for this webinar is "S5 Mobile: Futures Trading in the 21st Century", and topics include:
- S5 Trader Desktop, S5 Trade Analyzer, and S5 Mobile platforms - explained
- Live Order Synchronization feature review
- S5 iSystems activity monitoring
- Advanced interactive chart features
- Implementing and Executing trades via Mobile
- Setting up price alerts and notifications
We look forward to your feedback and hope you enjoy the solution as much as we do!
Best,
Anthony Giacomin
Managing Partner
Stage 5 Trading Corp.
Risk Disclaimer: Trading Futures, Options on Futures, and retail off-exchange foreign currency transactions involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. Past Performance is not indicative of future results.
That sounds fantastic! Yes, Trade Futures 4 Less (TF4L) is a division of Stage 5 Trading Corp. TF4L is founded on the principle that every client should receive the highest level of personalized service, advanced technology, responsive risk management, and quality trading platforms.
The services at both Stage 5 and TF4L are quite similar. I recommend contacting a broker to discuss the services in more detail and to create a customized brokerage solution that hopefully fits your trading needs/goals.
Hopefully, you will find what you are looking for and join the team/community!
Best,
Anthony
Anthony Giacomin
Managing Partner
Stage 5 Trading Corp.
55 W. Monroe Street, Suite 1190
Chicago, IL 60603
Tel: +1.312.801.6767 | 1.800.258.6675
Fax: +1.312.276.4221
Trading Futures and Options on Futures involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. You should carefully consider whether trading is suitable for you in light of your circumstances, knowledge, and financial resources. You may lose all or more of your initial investment. Opinions, market data, and recommendations are subject to change at any time. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
Risk Disclaimer: Trading Futures, Options on Futures, and retail off-exchange foreign currency transactions involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. Past Performance is not indicative of future results.
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I'm running into this dilemma with CQG, that the execution is sometimes horrible. I've seen live trades where the prpice was standing on my target for 1 minute 54 seconds (slow Asian market, ES e-mini) and the trade didn't close. Many many times, on slow markets the price has to touch the target (limit orders) multiple times to get filled. I'm using CQG thru one of the clearing brokers, i'm not really sure if this cannot be beat with a better brokerage.
I hope you and your family had a nice Thanksgiving and holiday break. Thank you for your post and reaching out to Stage 5. Stage 5 has access to many different data & execution feeds. Stage 5 offers connectivity through many feeds like the S5 Trader (GAIN), CQG/Continuum, Rithmic, CTS, TT, as well as other popular feeds. I believe there are many factors that can play into traders execution speed and reliability. For example, I believe hard wired connections are much better than wireless (wifi) connections. This is in addition to your specific ISP that could cause your connection to have issues outside that of each data/execution feed being provided.
With all that being said, I feel certain execution feeds and data centers are better for specific traders depending on their location and the exchange/products they are trading. For example, a trader located in Europe that trades Eurex Products where the exchange is located in Germany, may be better off routing their trade through a data center in Europe vs one in Chicago. This way the trade leaves the trader's computer in Europe then route through the European data center on its way to the exchange in Germany. This would cut down on latency compared to a trader that sends an order from the trader's computer located in Europe, then it routes through Chicago on it's way back to the exchange in Germany.
Please feel free to reach out to Stage 5 for a free one on one platform consultation with a broker to discuss your unique trading environment and available options in more detail. They should hopefully help you find a solution to enhance your trading goals.
Anthony Giacomin
Managing Partner
Stage 5 Trading Corp.
Trading Futures and Options on Futures involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. You should carefully consider whether trading is suitable for you in light of your circumstances, knowledge, and financial resources. You may lose all or more of your initial investment. Opinions, market data, and recommendations are subject to change at any time. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
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Hi guys,
It is my pleasure to welcome back Max Timmins from Stage 5 Trading and Walter Galways from iSystems, for a webinar on Tuesday, June 5th @ 4:30PM Eastern US.
The title for this event is "Digging Into the Details of S5 iSystems", and bullet points include:
- Successfully navigating the 1000+ Automated Trading Strategies to find the right fit for you
- How clients can easily start and stop systems in real time via the online platform
- Managing your account live with the Award Winning S5 Mobile Trader, S5 Trader, S5 Web, and S5 Trade Analyzer!
- Why S5 iSystems was built utilizing 24-hour liquidity and 100% transparency.
- How single account access allows for trading of as many systems as you like
- Why risk control is built into everything S5 iSystems does.
- Analyzing systems past performance across Backtested, Forward Tested and Live Trading Results
- How to use the S5 iSystems Developer Kit to create your own systems
- Why we made the SDK completely free for developers, including tech support, software tools, historical market data, etc.
For more information on the 2 months Free S5 iSystem developer fees subsidized by Stage 5, please fill out the form on the website below and a broker will walk you through all details.
We are really excited for this offer and look forward to hearing your experiences with S5 iSystems as well! If you have any questions or we can help with anything further just let us know.
Hope you enjoy exploring S5 iSystems and find some systems that fit your individual risk tolerance.
Best,
Anthony
Stage 5 Trading Corp.
55 W. Monroe Street, Suite 1190
Chicago, IL 60603
Tel: +1.312.801.6767 | 1.800.258.6675
Risk Disclaimer: Trading Futures, Options on Futures, and retail off-exchange foreign currency transactions involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. Past Performance is not indicative of future results.
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Hi guys,
Stage 5 Brokerage (a futures io site sponsor) recently celebrated their brokerage anniversary, and we wanted to send them a little "Happy Anniversary" gift.
They were kind enough to send back this great photo, and we wanted to share! We hope their team enjoyed the cake & cupcakes
Apologies if these questions have been answered before, I did a search but didn't find my answer.
I recently noticed on the Stage 5 site that you can use Investor-R/T along with the Stage5 Trader package and get free real-time market data, and for $15 more add the historical DTN Market Access, thus getting, if I understand it right, access to investor-r/t and a full market data (real-time + historical) package from DTN IQ-Feed for $15/month? Is this really true and are there any caveats? I know stand-alone Investor-R/T is $50+/month + any packages like volume-scope that you add.
One more question, I know stand-alone Investor-R/T will run natively on macOS, will the above package also run natively on macOS?
edit: I can't see where I thought I read that you don't have to pay the investor-r/t fees, so maybe I'm wrong on that, apologies for any confusion, could someone verify how this works?
Thank you for the inquiry and your interest in Stage 5 Trading as your brokerage partner. You are correct, you can use your S5 Trader Desktop data to power real time data in IRT. The S5 Trader data would still need to be enabled for market data from each exchange. Assuming you are not a professional trader and want the full depth of market CME Data Bundle (CME, CBOT, NYMEX, and COMEX) you would pay $15 per month plus tax. This would provide your S5 Trader, S5 Mobile Trader, S5 Web Trader, Investor RT, or any other third party compatible software with real time data. This also includes access to the S5 Trade Analyzer for free. For historical data, you would need to purchase DTN Market Access (DTN MA) for an additional $15 a month directly from the Linnsoft website. You would still need to purchase your Investor RT charting software from Linnsoft, but that is it. In my opinion, this is one of the best and lowest cost comprehensive IRT solutions available in the industry.
For more information, please feel free to contact us and a broker will walk you through the process and support you in finding the best trading solution possible for your custom needs. https://stage5trading.com/contact/
Unfortunately, the S5 Trader data would not be able to power real time data in IRT on a mac without windows emulator software.
Thanks again for your involvement and support and look forward to hearing how your journey evolves.
Best,
Anthony Giacomin
Stage 5 Trading Corp.
Risk Disclaimer: Trading Futures, Options on Futures, and retail off-exchange foreign currency transactions involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. Past Performance is not indicative of future results.
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My pleasure @snax. I am always happy to help and am confident you will be in good hands with the Stage 5 brokers and look forward to hearing your feedback!
Best,
Anthony
Risk Disclaimer: Trading Futures, Options on Futures, and retail off-exchange foreign currency transactions involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. Past Performance is not indicative of future results.
Do you know if Stage 5 will be providing the macOS version of Bookmap in the future? I know the current release of S5-Bookmap is windows only but this looks promising for us mac users (I use a mac for work). Is S5-Trader following a similar path by any chance? And I know the trade analyzer is cloud-based so that is good to go already.
Stage 5 Trading will certainly be offering the macOS version of S5 Bookmap! In fact you can access this pre-beta version now at Stage 5 Trading using Rithmic or CQG execution feeds. Like you mentioned, the macOS S5 Bookmap is compatible with the S5 Trade Analyzer as long as your execution feed is CQG! Currently, I don't believe the S5 Trader feed is compatible with the macOS S5 Bookmap and will be a topic we continue to address down the road. Hopefully, the S5 Trader feed will work with this solution as well.
Not to worry as we have your back with Rithmic and CQG....feel free to contact a broker to find out how!
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions or we can assist with anything further.
Thanks,
Anthony
Risk Disclaimer: Trading Futures, Options on Futures, and retail off-exchange foreign currency transactions involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. Past Performance is not indicative of future results.
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Risk Disclaimer: Trading Futures, Options on Futures, and retail off-exchange foreign currency transactions involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. Past Performance is not indicative of future results.
After having had accounts with several brokers reviewed here- AMP, Tradovate, Ninja, Optimus- I have to say that so far I've been most impressed with my experience at Stage 5.
Besides Optimus, which also has pretty great service, Stage 5 blew the other guys out of the water, for me at least, in terms of service. Having a specific broker assigned to you that you can call directly is not something you get with most of the others. My broker, Max, has been outstanding. When I send an email with questions, I more often than not get a phone call to discuss the answers, rather than the usual back and forth on email I was always used to.
Anyways, definitely worth giving Stage 5 a shot in my opinion, if you are unhappy with either the service or response time at your current broker.
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He started the Stage5 brokerage with, if I remember correctly, somebody who used to work at Infinity Futures brokerage. FT71 was a site sponsor on this forum for a long time but that ended recently (Mike closed the 'Ask Me Anything' thread that they had as those are for sponsors only. I think he is now concentrating his time on the brokerage, their chat rooms and the Convergent Trading website and trading education.
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Interestingly looking at their web page about themselves, https://stage5trading.com/about/ , FT71 isn't mentioned at all. I would of expected to see him with the other original founder Anthony Giacomin. The only mention is on the S5 Trade Analyser page where there is a testimonial from "FT71 - Professional Trader". May be he is just focused on Convergent now? Sorry, not an answer after all.
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The following user says Thank You to matthew28 for this post:
Those firms are just as reliable/serious as stage5 because they ARE stage5.
IMO, they likely created those firms as a way of creating tiered pricing. Where Stage5 is advertised as a more premium (expensive) service even though it’s exactly the same.
I want to make it clear that I'm not associated with Stage 5 Trading at all and have been for a while. I stopped working with Stage 5 Trading some time ago for many reasons. There is no relationship between Convergent and Stage 5 Trading. More details to follow.
I'm currently focused on continuing to build Convergent's specialized offering to online traders and on launching a new company that is awaiting regulatory approval. Looking forward to a year full of innovation, strong support for online traders and many successes.
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I think I understand that S5 is futures only_ I looking for a broker with ETF for Europeans, as in US ETFs. Tradestation claimed they had. I am not so sure.
Anyway, I do have IB broker and can trade options on the dangerous and risky ETFs... *WTF????!
Can you get the trade analyzer from somewhere without using S5? I see bookmap can be bought for itself. Anyway, trade analyzer can too? I might not have looked good enough, but all I see on the S5 site is free with subscription and free demo. I didn't push any button tho...
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Thank you for asking about the S5 Trade Analyzer and asking about the products Stage 5 Trading offers. Your interest in Exchange traded funds speaks to your desire to isolate certain trading themes as well as manage risk by trading smaller share size.
At Stage Five, we have access to micro contracts that give you similar abilities but also provide access to trade 23 hours a day five days a week. ETFs do not have the same access. Additionally, you can use the S5 Trade Analyzer to keep track of how you trade the micros and adapt your strategy accordingly.
Please let me know if you have any questions. I look forward to serving you.
Risk Disclaimer: Trading Futures, Options on Futures, and retail off-exchange foreign currency transactions involves substantial risk of loss and is not suitable for all investors. Past Performance is not indicative of future results.
Anthony Giacomin vs Morad Askar, lawsuit filed last year. Morad posted in another thread this week that he filled for a dismissal last month.
We can infer a few things from this lawsuit, at the least that there was a falling out between Anthony and Morad.
I've personally always had nothing but good things to say about Anthony, and have always heard good things from his brokerage clients. Same could be said about Morad. So I honestly don't know what exactly happened between Anthony and Morad.
I do know that Morad has started a new brokerage, one where he is full owner, called Edge Clear. He presumably made himself full owner of this new firm to avoid whatever happened between him and Anthony at Stage 5.
I've started a new broker thread for Edge Clear below:
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