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Now you are being arrogant. You dont know me, I dont know you. But I survive from what I gain in trading. If I was recurring in losses, I would have starved a long time ago.

About not wanting my trading system to be open to the world, I have my reasons, as you have yours to charge U$100,00 to anyone wanting to become an elite member. We all have our reasons. I dont judge you, you dont judge me.

Thanks for not answering my question, anyway.

So what are the reasons, since they fall outside of the two common possibilities I thought of, I'd like to be educated so I can be less arrogant in the future.

When you contacted @FuturesTrader71 and talked to him about your concerns, what did he say?

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If I understood correctly, he can see where my orders executed, but not the method I used to enter the trades (my screen, indicators etc), isnt it?

Because I really dont need any help with my method and I REALLY dont want him to see my screen.

if you don t need any help, i would suggest you can search for a low cost broker, according your size

i am with ft71 because i need his help

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So what are the reasons, since they fall outside of the two common possibilities I thought of, I'd like to be educated so I can be less arrogant in the future.

When you contacted @FuturesTrader71 and talked to him about your concerns, what did he say?

Mike


You were arrogant when you suposed I had losses acumulating and was ashamed to ask for help. Actually, the way you talked, you were more of stating than suposing. Well, let me tell you something. Have you ever looked at Ibovespa's Future Indice? If not, take a look. And then compare it to Crude Oil, just for an example. See which one is easier to make profit. Crude Oil is a piece of cake. And, believe, I'm not being arrogant here. Everything works with it. You can trade reversions (S/R), pullbacks, brake of higher highs or lower lows... even a MA cross strategy can work with it! Now come and try doing it with brazilian's future market. Come and survive here, like I did.


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if you don t need any help, i would suggest you can search for a low cost broker, according your size

i am with ft71 because i need his help

I'm going with Stage5 because I like the OpenCry software. And the cost there seem's low enough (specially when compared to costs here in Brazil).


But, all in all, I didnt want to be caught in an argument with you guys. I just asked a question, and then you started attacking me. And my question remains unanswered. I never asked if they needed to see my screen; I asked if they can see my screen.

So, lets stop fighting for nothing. I'm going to just assume they can see and deal with it.

Thanks for you time, guys.

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You were arrogant when you suposed I had losses acumulating and was ashamed to ask for help.

I think you didn't see the first thing I listed:


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They think their method is top secret and want to protect their edge from prying eyes. Well, I got news, if you can't trust your broker then you shouldn't give them your money.

That seems to be your reason. You haven't said, so I am only assuming. I stand by my comment.

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I asked if they can see my screen.

I am not sure if you are being serious, but the answer is "of course not". No one could "see your screen" unless you specifically invite them to do so.

I thought what you really meant was them seeing your trades, which of course they will have the ability to do.

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So what are the reasons, since they fall outside of the two common possibilities I thought of, I'd like to be educated so I can be less arrogant in the future.

When you contacted @FuturesTrader71 and talked to him about your concerns, what did he say?

Mike

Hi Mike,

I personally don't see value for anyone in your original comment. As a moderator I would imagine you should have a special role here. But... If it was just a provocation on your behalf then it's sad. If you were actually curious about the reasons for that question then there are better ways of asking in my opinion.

It seems there is loads of content on the forum which just represents personal views without really adding anything to the community. So I guess I'm joining the trend.

Just my views.

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Hi Mike,

I personally don't see value for anyone in your original comment. As a moderator I would imagine you should have a special role here. But... If it was just a provocation on your behalf then it's sad. If you were actually curious about the reasons for that question then there are better ways of asking in my opinion.

It seems there is loads of content on the forum which just represents personal views without really adding anything to the community. So I guess I'm joining the trend.

Just my views.

Same page. Here's my thought: since the communication is online, the tone and intent is often hard to correctly decipher. I doubt that @Big Mike has any personal malice toward the original poster since he continually tries to be helpful. But had I asked the question and received his response I would have simply felt sorry for him, thinking... ahhh... another jaded traded who wouldn't know a trading profit if it jumped up and bit him in the backside. The bane of digital communication is that it often lacks context.

As a disclaimer, I don't trade with Stage 5. With that clear, they are extremely unlikely to "view your screen" unless you invite them to do so. And, as your broker, they will absolutely see / have access to every trade that you submit. Good luck.

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I think you didn't see the first thing I listed:



That seems to be your reason. You haven't said, so I am only assuming. I stand by my comment.

Mike

I see the first thing you listed. But when you stated I was the second case, you became insulting. I assume a lot of things about you, but do I say it? Of course not. It would be disrespectful and uncalled for. Its inconvinient.


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I am not sure if you are being serious, but the answer is "of course not". No one could "see your screen" unless you specifically invite them to do so.

I thought what you really meant was them seeing your trades, which of course they will have the ability to do.

Mike

Yes, I was being serious. I'm sorry but I learned to trust no one 100% when it comes to money. Do you know what a trojan is? A person can see your screen without you even realising it. What if a function like that were already inside the trading software? If someone started being too profitable, reason says "hey, lets see what he is doing!".

I dont know if thats the case, and it just came to me because the other guy said someone could watch your trades and "help you". So I asked, and all this began. Thanks!


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Hi Mike,

I personally don't see value for anyone in your original comment. As a moderator I would imagine you should have a special role here. But... If it was just a provocation on your behalf then it's sad. If you were actually curious about the reasons for that question then there are better ways of asking in my opinion.

It seems there is loads of content on the forum which just represents personal views without really adding anything to the community. So I guess I'm joining the trend.

Just my views.




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Same page. Here's my thought: since the communication is online, the tone and intent is often hard to correctly decipher. I doubt that @Big Mike has any personal malice toward the original poster since he continually tries to be helpful. But had I asked the question and received his response I would have simply felt sorry for him, thinking... ahhh... another jaded traded who wouldn't know a trading profit if it jumped up and bit him in the backside. The bane of digital communication is that it often lacks context.

As a disclaimer, I don't trade with Stage 5. With that clear, they are extremely unlikely to "view your screen" unless you invite them to do so. And, as your broker, they will absolutely see / have access to every trade that you submit. Good luck.

"...But had I asked the question and received his response..."

His (mike's) response?

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Yes, I was being serious. I'm sorry but I learned to trust no one 100% when it comes to money. Do you know what a trojan is? A person can see your screen without you even realising it. What if a function like that were already inside the trading software? If someone started being too profitable, reason says "hey, lets see what he is doing!".

I dont know if thats the case, and it just came to me because the other guy said someone could watch your trades and "help you". So I asked, and all this began. Thanks!

I still stand by my original response. Any professional trader does not need to see your screen. They will not glean or gain anything from you. Even if you had a special way to make money in the market, you could post it all open and I bet that most wouldn't be able to replicate it.

But as multiple people have stated any broker will see all of your executions. Stage 5 has a plugin that allows you to export a trade report so they can determine how your trade performed. They will also help you to better understand the market. I only used it through a demo and they treated me like I had a funded account and a VIP client. And if it wasn't for Ninjatrader brokerage I would have opened my account with Stage 5.

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I still stand by my original response. Any professional trader does not need to see your screen. They will not glean or gain anything from you. Even if you had a special way to make money in the market, you could post it all open and I bet that most wouldn't be able to replicate it.

But as multiple people have stated any broker will see all of your executions. Stage 5 has a plugin that allows you to export a trade report so they can determine how your trade performed. They will also help you to better understand the market. I only used it through a demo and they treated me like I had a funded account and a VIP client. And if it wasn't for Ninjatrader brokerage I would have opened my account with Stage 5.

Come here, man, I dont like to fight. Let's be friends. Really.

But I dont agree with you when you say a trader cant copy something from other trader. I myself developed various ideas after seeing others trade. Of course I add my own touch to make it more "my way", but i cant deny it helped me to open my eyes for some possibilities.

For Stage5, yes, the support is outstanding. It was one of the things I liked the most. And here in Brazil we dont have softwares so developed (we suffer to send an order fast!!!!), so OpenCry's one looks marvelous.

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