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Zen-Fire vs Trading Technologies vs DTN IQ

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They filter to save money - server resources, money, etc.

If you filter water maybe you like it better and it is maybe even better for you.

But with data, if you are filtering it and other people are using raw data, and high level institutions go to great lengths to get unfiltered data and put in place extra resources to handle unfiltered data, then you are at some disadvantage if you are using filtered data.

As to how big this effects you, it could be very minor. If you don't know you need unfiltered data and your broker is TT or Zen-Fire, then you are fine using what they give you most likely.

If you use platforms other than Ninja then use DTN not Kinetick.

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every people say that TT is used by profesional traders, is that true by your knowing big mike?

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ow and forgeting one thing... I use zenfire with AMP and TS. And i notice that zenfire drops conection more often.

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When I used Rithmic for a few months (which I believe is Zenfire), I had the same issues with drops, especially during volatility,which was when I needed it to be up the most. This I found very annoying. The speed of the connection was amazing such that I saw tick moves back and forth so quickly that I don't think I have ever seen. At the end of the day I realized that what good was it when the connection would drop during the trade or when I was tying to put one on.

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When I used Rithmic for a few months (which I believe is Zenfire), I had the same issues with drops, especially during volatility,which was when I needed it to be up the most. This I found very annoying. The speed of the connection was amazing such that I saw tick moves back and forth so quickly that I don't think I have ever seen. At the end of the day I realized that what good was it when the connection would drop during the trade or when I was tying to put one on.

To me is not so clear your statement....

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Rithmic feed disconnected for me often during periods of volatility which I found frustrating.

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I posted under another heading but basically all about data feeds - Zenfire / Kinetick etc.

I described how my data was running 20 minutes behind the YM market on Thursday and Friday of last week...the first time this has happened since access to NinjaTrader/Zenfire three months ago.

I was online with another trader and could see the charts well ahead of mine....great trading opportunities with the benefit of hindsight!! Of course it would not accept any trading and I also notice bar chart timer stopped working on all timeframes.

What to do, except email support / wait for replies and wonder what had gone wrong....not exactly what a trader wants to be doing.

I will post again when I hear back from Ninja/Mirus Futures. It may take a couple of days.

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What you are describing almost sounds like you weren't authorized to receive real-time quotes for that market, and were receiving delayed data. But I don't think Zen Fire even has this, it would only be with other feeds like maybe DTN IQfeed if you didn't subscribe to the right option to be authorized for real-time quotes.

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They filter to save money - server resources, money, etc.

If you filter water maybe you like it better and it is maybe even better for you.

But with data, if you are filtering it and other people are using raw data, and high level institutions go to great lengths to get unfiltered data and put in place extra resources to handle unfiltered data, then you are at some disadvantage if you are using filtered data.

As to how big this effects you, it could be very minor. If you don't know you need unfiltered data and your broker is TT or Zen-Fire, then you are fine using what they give you most likely.

If you use platforms other than Ninja then use DTN not Kinetick.

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Mike and all, I am considering DTN for use with Ninja.....are there any problems (integration or otherwise) that I should be aware of.....much thanks in advance

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I've been demoing Ninja on Mirus with Zenfire. Does anyone know if Mirus demo feed behaves the same as their live feed? no obvious slippage or spread differences?

I wanted to try zen-fire because I was tired of ThinkOrSwim's horrendous DOM fills and their slippage at "real time". I'm mainly looking to scalp futures on 1min or 5min charts.

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