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S&P emini and forex data feeds

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Los Angeles, CA
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I'm pretty new to day trading so bear with me if these are very basic questions.

For the ES it seems the consensus is you need a 3rd party data provider. This is because brokers provide sampled data rather than tick by tick. What confuses me if you are not trading off ticks, but rather a 5 minute chart, are the 3rd party feeds still necessary? Would data from say, Interactive Brokers, be enough to do price action trading on a 5 minute chart? I'm inclined to say no, as bars on the 5 minute chart are still made up of the sampled data, so it may be ticks which could incorrectly represent the Open, High, Low and close. Is this correct reasoning?

On the Forex side I'm a bit confused. Are there even third party providers for this data? I was reading that each broker can be in a different trading "sandbox", so there is no centralized data feed to pull from. In that case is the only option for forex data your broker?

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Good questions. I am not keen on the 'terminology' as much anymore as others will have it down pat, but basically for most market maker forex brokers you are playing in their sandbox.

There are some that are more legitimate and reflect the true market, but even then spreads still make a difference.

For ES/Futures, then you are dealing with a central marketplace. I am not sure as to what is exactly sent and what not, I do not care unless I am doing some kind of HFT.

If you are new, then I suggest keeping your overhead light and plan on a good journey to continue your education. That is why Ninjatrader is so popular and with brokers like AMP, Mirus, Velocity, etc. you can get in with a pretty small account and just be sim for a while. You don't need to purchase the platform really until you are ready to go live and even then you still don't.

Sierra Charts is also a good cheap software that can do pretty much everything you would want to do. I suggest NT though since it is more widely used on this forum. My advice also is to choose a market and stick with it.

MT4 is by far better software for forex, BUT, the brokers have the connector software to that which doesn't always work in your favor. Hopefully the NFA fixes that issue in the future!

Plan on learning for a couple years before you can be consistent, but who knows, you could do it sooner.

Just give yourself plenty of room and time and it will come in my opinion. But hey, who am I to say, as I am still on that journey. I have had periods of 6 months of profitability live and then lost it all within weeks... Just be cautious, courteous to yourself!

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