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Customer Account Protection

  #21 (permalink)
 Michael.H 
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I was stuck in a position, and i was on hold for a considerably long time with IB. When i finally got through, they told me that they were having technical problems, and i had to wait before they could liquidate my position.

I don't know if that was a one time thing( it was a while ago), but i def won't forget it. I believe tradestation is the same.

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  #22 (permalink)
 sysot1t 
 
Posts: 1,173 since Nov 2009

I can relate with that risk... that is the very reason as to why one should have two accounts (Across completely different FCM's and execution networks) ... in order to hedge if something goes completely wrong, which can happen... it has never happened to me thus far, therefore I thank you for sharing the experience.. it is good to have a reminder of what can go wrong at times.


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I was stuck in a position, and i was on hold for a considerably long time with IB. When i finally got through, they told me that they were having technical problems, and i had to wait before they could liquidate my position.

I don't know if that was a one time thing( it was a while ago), but i def won't forget it. I believe tradestation is the same.


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  #23 (permalink)
 Michael.H 
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I still have other accounts, different clearing firms.... Still, IB is a huge broker, as is tradestation. They should invest in better technology. That shouldn't happen.

If it came down to it, i would rather use thinkorswim instead... Get all the same benefits, ACH transfers, yet more stable platform.
However, ever since TD ameritrade bought them out, their data has become sub par quality.
I learned in this game, you'll never find perfection, whether its your broker or platform. Just have to make the best of everything, and be prepared for the worst.

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 MetalTrade 
 
Posts: 1,055 since May 2010

I'm with crossland and have a segregated account and lower fees than velocity. That's hopefully one less thing to worry about.

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 sysot1t 
 
Posts: 1,173 since Nov 2009


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I'm with crossland and have a segregated account and lower fees than velocity. That's hopefully one less thing to worry about.

welcome back..

I am not familiar with them, but by looking at the data I think it is the same risk as Velocity.. their SRO is the CBOT, which to me is better; they have more customer funds, and a bit more excess capital.. but besides that, IMO... same risks.. just a bit lesser of a chance.. but not by much..

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 MetalTrade 
 
Posts: 1,055 since May 2010

Thanks,

How would you interpret this ?

All Client Funds Are Held In A "Customer Segregated Bank Account" Separate From The Clearing Firm As Required By " Regulations" . Funds Held In A Customer Segregated Account Are "Not" Subject To Creditor Claims Of The Clearing Firm.

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 jonc 
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Since we are on this topic of account protection, I have a question about the security of our accounts. My broker knows my login details, he was the one who sent them to me. And when I asked him about changing it online, he told me there is no such feature. I was told if I wish to change the login details, I have to either change the password through him or the customer service. But this defeat the whole purpose of me changing the password.

Is this the same for you guys?

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 Michael.H 
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I've have accounts with RCG, dorman, and velocity. None of them know my password, and in all cases you can change it yourself online without their knowledge.

Who's your broker if you don't mind me asking?

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 sysot1t 
 
Posts: 1,173 since Nov 2009

see my prior posts about what segregation means.. your funds are at risk still if their risk management fails to protect you against customers (aka other account holders) failure... all the funds are pooled.. that just means that they cant use your funds, in theory, for operational needs (payroll, etc.)


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Thanks,

How would you interpret this ?

All Client Funds Are Held In A "Customer Segregated Bank Account" Separate From The Clearing Firm As Required By " Regulations" . Funds Held In A Customer Segregated Account Are "Not" Subject To Creditor Claims Of The Clearing Firm.


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  #30 (permalink)
 sysot1t 
 
Posts: 1,173 since Nov 2009


wow, just three words... find another broker...


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Since we are on this topic of account protection, I have a question about the security of our accounts. My broker knows my login details, he was the one who sent them to me. And when I asked him about changing it online, he told me there is no such feature. I was told if I wish to change the login details, I have to either change the password through him or the customer service. But this defeat the whole purpose of me changing the password.

Is this the same for you guys?


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