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What Feed to use with Ninjatrader

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2) What I mean when I say Matrix, I mean a trading ladder like Ninjatrader DOM, along with a automatic strategy where when you get into a trade, it puts your stop and target on the ladder.

This is what a ladder from CQG looks like

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In CQG you have bracket orders, where you can customize stop and target. Yes, this is part and parcel of the product.


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3) What I mean when I say DX, I mean a feed to show the US Dollar Index, and yes, SMI like you said is an oscillator, Stochastic Momentum Index.

QTRader has 2 Stochastic oscillators, a fast and a slow one.
Regarding the feed, I would be surprised if CQG couldn't track it. It has all the major world's exchanges listed in its platform. It's probably a matter of having that specific feed enabled by your broker.


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4) Does QTrader offer a demo, to try it for a short time to get farmiliar with it?

Yes, there's a 5 days trial. Details here

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This is what a ladder from CQG looks like

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In CQG you have bracket orders, where you can customize stop and target. Yes, this is part and parcel of the product.

QTRader has 2 Stochastic oscillators, a fast and a slow one.
Regarding the feed, I would be surprised if CQG couldn't track it. It has all the major world's exchanges listed in its platform. It's probably a matter of having that specific feed enabled by your broker.

Yes, there's a 5 days trial. Details here

Thank you xplorer. I'm going to try there demo.

The Ladder looks great.

You know how there's many studies available for Ninjatrader. If the SMI isn't available on the platform, are there any resources like there are for ninja, to get it?

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Thank you xplorer. I'm going to try there demo.

The Ladder looks great.

You know how there's many studies available for Ninjatrader. If the SMI isn't available on the platform, are there any resources like there are for ninja, to get it?

Basically, as long as you know the mathematical formula to create an indicator, you can re-create whatever you need.

I understand that to be true on both NT and CQG.

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Basically, as long as you know the mathematical formula to create an indicator, you can re-create whatever you need.

I understand that to be true on both NT and CQG.

Thanks for all the information xplorer.

I'm going to try the demo tonight. Although the additional $0.25/filled contract fee, along with tradefutures4less.com fees pretty much put the cost very close to ninjatrader.

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Thanks for all the information xplorer.

I'm going to try the demo tonight. Although the additional $0.25/filled contract fee, along with tradefutures4less.com fees pretty much put the cost very close to ninjatrader.

Yes, a pain in the a** - they call that 'routing fee'.

My understanding is, it may cost a little more with this fee but I understand that it provides more quality in terms of speed and execution. Perhaps @mattz can help by confirming this about the routing fee and whether it adds value - I've seen him speak highly of CQG.

You may also want to have a chat with him. He is very active on this forum and works for another broker (Optimus Futures) and, as far as I can tell most of his clients are happy.

Perhaps you can work out a deal with him.

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Yes, a pain in the a** - they call that 'routing fee'.

My understanding is, it may cost a little more with this fee but I understand that it provides more quality in terms of speed and execution. Perhaps @mattz can help by confirming this about the routing fee and whether it adds value - I've seen him speak highly of CQG.

You may also want to have a chat with him. He is very active on this forum and works for another broker (Optimus Futures) and, as far as I can tell most of his clients are happy.

Perhaps you can work out a deal with him.

I just requested a demo. I'm looking forward to try it.

What do you mean, work out a deal with him... do you mean going with Optimus vs tradefuturesforless.com?

I want you to know how much I appreciate you taking the time to help me with this xplorer.

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Yes, a pain in the a** - they call that 'routing fee'.

My understanding is, it may cost a little more with this fee but I understand that it provides more quality in terms of speed and execution. Perhaps @mattz can help by confirming this about the routing fee and whether it adds value - I've seen him speak highly of CQG.

You may also want to have a chat with him. He is very active on this forum and works for another broker (Optimus Futures) and, as far as I can tell most of his clients are happy.

Perhaps you can work out a deal with him.

Thank you for the mention @xplorer MUCH APPRECIATED.
Going through the thread I see that you refer to CQG Trader from the images(?)
We have the ability to route CQG Trader and other CQG driven software with 10 cents (0.20 RT), not .25 via certain FCMs. So we have the ability to be competitive depending on customer activity and initial funding balance.

As for the value of CQG: I always said that any feed that runs on its own native application, in my personal opinion, is better than running on external third party software. I understand that many have software that needs to plug in to other data feeds, and in that case I have very strong opinion about what should be hooked up with what to make it ideal. You can always call me in the firm (ask for Matt) so I can guide you. My guidance is objective with the trader's goals in mind.

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I just requested a demo. I'm looking forward to try it.

What do you mean, work out a deal with him... do you mean going with Optimus vs tradefuturesforless.com?

I want you to know how much I appreciate you taking the time to help me with this xplorer.

Yes, I mean, my own personal advice is always to shop around to try and get the best deal.


So given I heard most people here on the forum speak very well about Optimus, I thought I'd suggest that as an option/alternative.


Depending on the volume traded most brokers should be able to give you some sort of deal - generally the more you trade the lower the transaction cost.

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Thank you for the mention @xplorer MUCH APPRECIATED.
Going through the thread I see that you refer to CQG Trader from the images(?)
We have the ability to route CQG Trader and other CQG driven software with 10 cents (0.20 RT), not .25 via certain FCMs. So we have the ability to be competitive depending on customer activity and initial funding balance.

As for the value of CQG: I always said that any feed that runs on its own native application, in my personal opinion, is better than running on external third party software. I understand that many have software that needs to plug in to other data feeds, and in that case I have very strong opinion about what should be hooked up with what to make it ideal. You can always call me in the firm (ask for Matt) so I can guide you. My guidance is objective with the trader's goals in mind.

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Hi Matt

No, I was referring to QTrader - I appreciate that the DOM part of QTrader is essentially just CQG Trader

You have to excuse my relatively poor understanding of trading infrastructure, so that I don't really appreciate why certain providers charge for the routing (CQG for instance, with this fee) and certain don't.

I imagined it might have to do with a 'better routing', just like having preferential lanes so to speak, but it just may be I'm imagining things

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